[csmithy]

I find it VERY hard to believe he just walked outside and fell. I understand he was drunk and I do not believe his family is arguing that fact. It is my understanding that they just want to know exactly what happen and unfortunately for them they have not gotten answers.

[LPPT]

Man makes choice to go to bar in Hiram, man makes choice to drink too much, he makes the choice to get rowdy enough to make patrons and management uncomfortable.
Lets take a guess at what happened in the parking lot.

I am very sorry that this man's lapse in judgement caused him to end up in the hospital in a comma. I pray that he will be ok.
I am sure the management of the establishment did not want this outcome at his place of business.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

I actually know someone that was there from 7 to close that night. I asked him why he didn't tell me about his exciting night and he wasn't aware of someone being asked to leave or about a fight.

Shananigans, on 10 March 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

No matter what happened, suggesting that the owner should visit the guy in the hospital is stupid from a legal standpoint.

I agree.

[kim404]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 10 March 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Were you there that night? The news story was rather vague on how he fell(or how many times).

Exactly. It was vague. My point proven by you. Thanks. I don't know the guy but I do know the owners, workers and a huge amount of the patrons. And that us why I feel like it us ludicrous to attack any of them for a guy who the "media" portrayed as causing trouble and asked to leave because of being intoxicated and got hurt. I am not saying I am coldhearted and not concerned for his full recovery. But prices do have to be paid for your own choices you make. He chose to go into the bar and drink, therefore impairing his judgment so whatever happened was his doing. The owners or workers didn't go to his home and bring him there. And no I wasn't there that night but until you just asked you didn't know I wasn't. I have heard from others who were that have no stake on the outcome or not. And they all tell the same story. And like I said why arrest someone for doing what they were paid to do. Escort a belligerent patron outside the building. And if your perception to begin with was go on broad daylight to a place on your opinion was scraping the bottom of the barrel you obviously believe everything you hear instead of basing your own opinion. And you also stated you went several times. If the environment was so bad the ,,first time why go back?

[Happy Wife And Mom]

kim404, on 10 March 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

And if your perception to begin with was go on broad daylight to a place on your opinion was scraping the bottom of the barrel you obviously believe everything you hear instead of basing your own opinion. And you also stated you went several times. If the environment was so bad the ,,first time why go back?

You must be responding to someone else at this point. I have been inside HS one time. I was dropping someone off and they left their cigarettes in my car. I brought their cigarettes in and handed them to him at the bar and left. I find it odd that he could be there all night Wednesday night on not seen anything.

[kim404]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 10 March 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Were you there that night? The news story was rather vague on how he fell(or how many times).

Exactly. It was vague. My point proven by you. Thanks. I don't know the guy but I do know the owners, workers and a huge amount of the patrons. And that us why I feel like it us ludicrous to attack any of them for a guy who the "media" portrayed as causing trouble and asked to leave because of being intoxicated and got hurt. I am not saying I am coldhearted and not concerned for his full recovery. But prices do have to be paid for your own choices you make. He chose to go into the bar and drink, therefore impairing his judgment so whatever happened was his doing. The owners or workers didn't go to his home and bring him there. And no I wasn't there that night but until you just asked you didn't know I wasn't. I have heard from others who were that have no stake on the outcome or not. And they all tell the same story. And like I said why arrest someone for doing what they were paid to do. Escort a belligerent patron outside the building. And if your perception to begin with was go on broad daylight to a place on your opinion was scraping the bottom of the barrel you obviously believe everything you hear instead of basing your own opinion. And you also stated you went several times. If the environment was so bad the ,,first time why go back?

[♥GaLinemansWife♥]

Ive never understood why people hang out at bars anyway...

[mojo413]

I've got no clue if this is a good place, bad place, fine dining establishment or awful place to eat. I haven't eaten lunch there in years after it got too loud to enjoy a relaxing lunch. I have not been back in more than 10 years.

I do remember an encounter I witnessed between a friend and his customer who was also a customer of this establishment.

My friend runs a towing service with an impound lot.
I was hanging out with my friend one day when he had an appointment to meet a customer whom had a car in the impound lot.
After settling up and after my friend bringing the car outside the gate the customer told my buddy something to the effect of "you know I was at the Hiram Station just before I got stopped last night?" My friend said something like "yes I know and Hiram Station has been really good for my business". The customer asked something like "what do you mean by Hiram Station has been really good for your business? My friend said "the GSP officers sit across the street and watch people stumble out, get in their cars, drive off, then if I'm on call, they call me to come get the car". The customer got mad and blurted out something like "that's entrapment I should sue them for stopping me". My buddy replied "no that's kind of like fishing by shooting fish in a bucket, entrapment would be the officers sitting up a table inside, giving you drinks, then stopping you".
Needless to say the customer was then mad and drove off in haste.

While I remember this encounter as humerous I do hope and pray this customer recovers completely from his injuries.

This post has been edited by mojo413: 10 March 2012 - 05:03 PM

[kim404]

Sorry Happy I am on my phone and sometimes it doesn't exactly work the way I want it to. That comment was directional Gipper.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

kim404, on 10 March 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

Sorry Happy I am on my phone and sometimes it doesn't exactly work the way I want it to. That comment was directional Gipper.

I didn't think it was directed at me, just clarifying. My brother in law plays pool there and goes every Wednesday. He doesn't drive, so I drop him off. I'm not big on bars in general, I have no personal feelings towards HS. I have been in better and worse places.

[STRAWMAN]

♥GaLinemansWife♥, on 10 March 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

Ive never understood why people hang out at bars anyway...

No one likes to drink alone

[A Gipper Girl]

kim404, on 10 March 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Exactly. It was vague. My point proven by you. Thanks. I don't know the guy but I do know the owners, workers and a huge amount of the patrons. And that us why I feel like it us ludicrous to attack any of them for a guy who the "media" portrayed as causing trouble and asked to leave because of being intoxicated and got hurt. I am not saying I am coldhearted and not concerned for his full recovery. But prices do have to be paid for your own choices you make. He chose to go into the bar and drink, therefore impairing his judgment so whatever happened was his doing. The owners or workers didn't go to his home and bring him there. And no I wasn't there that night but until you just asked you didn't know I wasn't. I have heard from others who were that have no stake on the outcome or not. And they all tell the same story. And like I said why arrest someone for doing what they were paid to do. Escort a belligerent patron outside the building. And if your perception to begin with was go on broad daylight to a place on your opinion was scraping the bottom of the barrel you obviously believe everything you hear instead of basing your own opinion. And you also stated you went several times. If the environment was so bad the ,,first time why go back?

I didnt make any comment either way on the extravaganza that this thread is about. My comments were about the bar itself and they were pretty broad.

I hope they come out of this okay and their business continues. I LOVE small business and love to see them succeed.

Maybe I just should have said that it's not my kind of place.

[kittycat]

kim404, on 10 March 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

When was the last time you went there? And why should the owner go visit the guy at the hospital? Would you feel sorry for the buy behind bars who was arrested for causing problems on his establishment because be was drink. If you heard the interview and read the article the guy was asked to leave and didn't want to. He was escorted outside and fell. Why arrest the bouncer for doing his job. Pure crazieness. Some people need to think before they speak. Just saying.

It's been a long time since I've been there (if that matters) and the news story didn;t really say what happened...but just take it that he was ask to leave and he was escorted out......and he did fall down ....drunk or not...the man was a customer and he fell and got hurt...and now he is fighting for his life...I never said anything about arresting anyone...but at least have a heart and go visit the man and talk with the family......just saying

[Inspector Callahan]

Stupid should hurt. In this situation, it did.

[gog8tors]

kittycat, on 10 March 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:

It's been a long time since I've been there (if that matters) and the news story didn;t really say what happened...but just take it that he was ask to leave and he was escorted out......and he did fall down ....drunk or not...the man was a customer and he fell and got hurt...and now he is fighting for his life...I never said anything about arresting anyone...but at least have a heart and go visit the man and talk with the family......just saying

Just wanted to say, I grew out of bar hopping way before I was 40, so I've never been in this place.
I want to give the owner the benefit of the doubt. I'm thinking he/she may want to go visit, but you know the "right to remain silent" might apply here.

[NC-17]

Inspector Callahan, on 11 March 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

Stupid should hurt. In this situation, it did.

I really do love you!

[overit]

Inspector Callahan, on 11 March 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

Stupid should hurt. In this situation, it did.

Numerous times....by numerous people!!!


(couldn't help adding to your smartassNESS)

[Ed Head]

Sorry for this bit of side track, but about a week and a half ago I was coming home on 278. I was around the Lithia Springs area when I was behind a driver weaving all over the road in his truck. I thought at first maybe he was texting and would correct himself but after a long while of doing this and almost killing himself and others I determined he was drunk as a skunk and I called 911 to report him - to get him off the road. They asked me to stay with him and they kept me on the phone until they could pick him up. I went all through Powder Springs and finally into Hiram where I was switched dispatchers due to the change in juristiction I guess. I was really surprised he made it that far. They kept asking my location and I kept them informed. Then he turned onto 120 and turned left onto Business 6 towards downtown Dallas but then turned left into the parking lot that leads to Hiram Station. The cops still hadn't arrived. He parked off to the side of HS and got out and started stumbling towards the bar. There were some patrons outside and he started talking to them. Last I saw they were laughing at him; maybe they knew him or maybe they were embarrassed for him, but that's where I left it. I wasn't going to wait for the cops; I did my bit. But I reckon they may have been laying for that truck that night. I hope he got a ride home with someone else, or got a taxi.

I never narc anyone out unless there are lives in obvious danger.

I was inside Hiram Station once but haven't returned in several years. First impressions and all that. It seemed to me a case of the kooks running the assylum.

I hope the guy in the coma recovers fully.

[Inspector Callahan]

NC-17, on 11 March 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

I really do love you!

And yet again, you make my day

[mrnn]

mojo413, on 10 March 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

I've got no clue if this is a good place, bad place, fine dining establishment or awful place to eat. I haven't eaten lunch there in years after it got too loud to enjoy a relaxing lunch. I have not been back in more than 10 years.

I do remember an encounter I witnessed between a friend and his customer who was also a customer of this establishment.

My friend runs a towing service with an impound lot.
I was hanging out with my friend one day when he had an appointment to meet a customer whom had a car in the impound lot.
After settling up and after my friend bringing the car outside the gate the customer told my buddy something to the effect of "you know I was at the Hiram Station just before I got stopped last night?" My friend said something like "yes I know and Hiram Station has been really good for my business". The customer asked something like "what do you mean by Hiram Station has been really good for your business? My friend said "the GSP officers sit across the street and watch people stumble out, get in their cars, drive off, then if I'm on call, they call me to come get the car". The customer got mad and blurted out something like "that's entrapment I should sue them for stopping me". My buddy replied "no that's kind of like fishing by shooting fish in a bucket, entrapment would be the officers sitting up a table inside, giving you drinks, then stopping you".
Needless to say the customer was then mad and drove off in haste.

While I remember this encounter as humerous I do hope and pray this customer recovers completely from his injuries.

It may not be called "entrapment" but that practice can result in the business owner suing the city and winning easily. Who wants to own a bar that has a reputation of cops lying in wait across the street?

mrnn

[mojo413]

mrnn, on 12 March 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:

It may not be called "entrapment" but that practice can result in the business owner suing the city and winning easily. Who wants to own a bar that has a reputation of cops lying in wait across the street?

mrnn

Maybe you heard the joke about the customer leaving the bar in Alabama?
There was a bar in Alabama where there was a reputation of it being somewhat roudy.
The local police officers were known to often sit across the street and catch drunk drivers as they entered the highway.
This one night just before closing time the officers observed a gentleman staggered out the front door and appearing to have a problem finding his own car.
He stopped at car after car and tried to open each one with his key.
Finally after many attempts he found his car and was able to open his door.
He fell into his seat and attempted to adjust his seat back, however it fell onto the back seat.
After numerous attempts he was finally able to get his seat adjusted into an acceptable driving position.
By now the officers knew he was impaired, but knew the case would never stick unless they saw him driving, so they decided to wait it out.
The man continued his efforts to drive by making many attempts to get the key in the switch.
Finally he was able to crank the car but found it extremely hard to get the emergency brake off and get the shifter into drive.
Finally he was able to slowly drive the car to the street entrance.
After giving each on-coming car a miles right of way he pulled onto the highway.
Blue lights lite up and the officers finally had him.
He was slow getting out of the car having much trouble opening the door and getting his legs out, but finally he was out.
The officers gave him a field sobriety test which first was looking at his eyes, they were fine.
The officers then had him say his ABC's, which he recited perfectly.
The officers then had him walk the white line, which he performed perfectly.
They finally had him blow into a monitor, which displayed 0.00.

The officers could not understand how he passed all test with flying colors.

Finally the gentleman looked towards the empty bar parking lot and stated "I am the designated decoy".

[noelleboots]

A Gipper Girl, on 10 March 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

I know ZERO about City of Hiram law but I do know that you have to get a personal liquor serving license in most counties to serve alcohol. It is done at the police dept headquarters in Cobb. My understanding was that it included a background check. Not sure what constitutes not being able to get one b/c of your history though.

However, I served and bartended part time for a few years until last year and whether or not employees had gotten their license was up to the owner(whether they enforced it). The standard where I worked was very strict on it mainly b/c we had a lot of government employees who frequented the bar and restaurant and you never knew when they would ask to see licenses. They(the County) didnt ask very often at all but we always had to get them ourselves and keep them filed there in the restaurant office.

I have serious doubts that too much of anything "good and lawful" is enforced in THIS bar. It was a big hassle for the owner but he did it anyway. Who knows who they have working there.

As a former employee I can assure you the management follows the required guidelines requiring the servers to have current permits.

[noelleboots]

A Gipper Girl, on 10 March 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

Rofl! ummm, I "judge" that they are a rough and rowdy bar b/c they ARE which is why I DONT go. Thats what most ppl do if they dont like something...they dont keep going back.


Ive been there a few times but was smart enough to ONLY go IN BROAD DAYLIGHT and in a group. I couldnt even remember eating whatever I just ate b/c of having to look over my shoulder .

Pleeeease. Everybody knows they have a reputation for being rough. They keep a NO FIREARM sign scotch taped to the door , for Heavens sake. Its a common joke in Paulding. Furthermore, I am entitled to my opinion and thats my opinion.

Absolutely you are entitled to your opinion. If it were me I just wouldn't waste so much energy in a thread regarding a place you despise so much. Kinda funny....

[sungoddess]

This is what I expect to see in bars and have seen all my life. Alcohol causes many problems when you drink excessively, and bars actually scare me. I have been to many over the years, but now go only when a friend is playing in the band or for a special occasion for a friend.

[Hopper626]

Sorry to sound so cold hearted but itsn't it POSSIBLE that he stumbled and fell after a VERBAL altercation with a bouncer ? I know the gf is upset but still... We all don't know ALL the facts and it sounds to me like Hiram PD is still sorting everything out too.
There is such a HUGE gap in between the time he was asked to leave and falling. Just seems fishy


On the subject of the Phoenix, Not impressed. Still a Dive The last time we went there (with some friends), some intoxicated chick was on the pole and fell on her A** . That was the one and ONLY, most entertaining and funniest event of the night!

This post has been edited by Hopper626: 12 March 2012 - 12:49 PM

[chansky]

Wasn't there a hijacking at the Pheonix a few weeks ago?

[jenilyn]

I've been once. It didn't take long after our arrival for the "ladies" to get jealous and try to start a fight with me and my friends. I assume for being attractive and untrashy. We were minding our own business. On our way out a fight broke out in the parking lot, it looked pretty bad. I didn't stick around for the outcome. yeesh, I never wanna go back.

[gemini52272]

Yes, you would be correct

RaidersRock, on 09 March 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Is this the place with the stripper pole on the dance floor?

[A Gipper Girl]

jenilyn, on 12 March 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

I've been once. It didn't take long after our arrival for the "ladies" to get jealous and try to start a fight with me and my friends. I assume for being attractive and untrashy. We were minding our own business. On our way out a fight broke out in the parking lot, it looked pretty bad. I didn't stick around for the outcome. yeesh, I never wanna go back.

I dont think you're "allowed" to dislike a trashy bar in this thread, J.

[satellite]

If it sounds a duck, walks like a duck, and looks like a duck....well...

[mojo413]

Any word on the injured mans condition?

[SOLO]

mrnn, on 12 March 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:

It may not be called "entrapment" but that practice can result in the business owner suing the city and winning easily. Who wants to own a bar that has a reputation of cops lying in wait across the street?

mrnn

That has been going on at that place for many many years.

[momof 3]

We went to Hiram Station the first week we moved here in 1997 when it was still mostly a restaurant. We wanted to support our new community and try new things. It was a Tuesday night around 6:30, we sat down ordered and got our food pretty quickly. As our daughter was saying the blessing, 2 people smashed onto our table, food went flying, I got hit and they were fighting on the table between the two seats. Hubby jumped up and snatched them both up and slung them off into the floor, we quickly got up and left, NEVER to go back.

[rockysmom]

momof 3, on 12 March 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

We went to Hiram Station the first week we moved here in 1997 when it was still mostly a restaurant. We wanted to support our new community and try new things. It was a Tuesday night around 6:30, we sat down ordered and got our food pretty quickly. As our daughter was saying the blessing, 2 people smashed onto our table, food went flying, I got hit and they were fighting on the table between the two seats. Hubby jumped up and snatched them both up and slung them off into the floor, we quickly got up and left, NEVER to go back.

I'm sorry but that is a freaking hilarious visual!

[A Gipper Girl]

momof 3, on 12 March 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

We went to Hiram Station the first week we moved here in 1997 when it was still mostly a restaurant. We wanted to support our new community and try new things. It was a Tuesday night around 6:30, we sat down ordered and got our food pretty quickly. As our daughter was saying the blessing, 2 people smashed onto our table, food went flying, I got hit and they were fighting on the table between the two seats. Hubby jumped up and snatched them both up and slung them off into the floor, we quickly got up and left, NEVER to go back.

and Im still wondering why a few people have gotten so offended by my saying its a trashy bar that is not safe?

[cntrygrl83]

A Gipper Girl, on 09 March 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

...and to think this can happen at such a nice bar.

This actually made me L.O.L.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

rockysmom, on 12 March 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

I'm sorry but that is a freaking hilarious visual!

Yes, it is.

[momof 3]

rockysmom, on 12 March 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

I'm sorry but that is a freaking hilarious visual!

I KNOW......it was absurd, kind of like a SNL skit.

[momof 3]

A Gipper Girl, on 12 March 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

and Im still wondering why a few people have gotten so offended by my saying its a trashy bar that is not safe?

It is a trashy bar and unsafe. OMG, when my daughter was pregnant with my grandson, a friend brought her some wings from there and she became hooked. She made an order to go one night, she and my SIL went in to get them and apparently there is a dance floor. W-E-L-L, she said this lady and man were cutting a rug when suddenly the lady took a quick spin and her teeth flew out and clattered across the dance floor. She proceeded to snatch them up, poke them back into her mouth and daughter swears she never missed a beat! Now, THATS my kind of place!!!!! NOT!!!!! Do they really serve THAT much alcohol there?!

[lowrider]

momof 3, on 12 March 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

It is a trashy bar and unsafe. OMG, when my daughter was pregnant with my grandson, a friend brought her some wings from there and she became hooked. She made an order to go one night, she and my SIL went in to get them and apparently there is a dance floor. W-E-L-L, she said this lady and man were cutting a rug when suddenly the lady took a quick spin and her teeth flew out and clattered across the dance floor. She proceeded to snatch them up, poke them back into her mouth and daughter swears she never missed a beat! Now, THATS my kind of place!!!!! NOT!!!!! Do they really serve THAT much alcohol there?!

OMG!! That cracked me up!