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#41 User is offline   Magic Mommy 

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 04:07 PM

View Postrockysmom, on 03 March 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

I hate this happened but again, if I had a Pitt, you better believe I would not let my dog roam. Ever. Until owers realize that while they may have a loving dog, other people have their own ideas about this breed. Keep your dogs up! It is YOUR responsibility to keep your family pet safe.

You choose the breed now you deal with the responsibility that comes along with it.

I do hate this happened and I hate that a family lost their pet.


That's exactly how I've kept Scooby. He's an indoor baby, does NOT like to be in the elements. He's afraid of everything, always has been. Knowing from the start that he's skittish helped in training him. I remember when he was a puppy, he had a "wiggly giggly" bone, a plastic bone that giggled and vibrated when the animal set off the motion thing in it. He was so terrified of it when it moved!! He would run and hide, and I'd find him shaking and whimpering. When he'd finally get the courage to come out of hiding, he'd stand at the door of the room the bone was in and bark at it until we got rid of it. It was because of that behavior that we kept him seperated from the children when they were infants and young toddlers. Now, he sleeps at the foot of the oldest's bed.

I've owned labs, a poodle, a cocker spanial, and currently have a German Shephard mix in addition to Scooby. Everyone of these animals "picked" me and were all rescues. Scooby was literally rescued the morning of his scheduled demise (he was over six months old and a pitt, that alone marked him). Almost 12 years later, I have never regretted taking him home.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:30 PM

View Postflower child, on 03 March 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

A really sad day in our neighborhood. My neighbors fence was partially taken down by a tree and her dog escaped. This dog ran next door and played ball for about a half an hour with the teenager next door. When the teenager went inside the dog went across the street to another neighbor who was out. He promptly went in the house retrieved a pistol and shot the dog 5 times. This all hapened about 9:15 this morning I promptly received a call from the shooter to tell me to have my neighbor get her dead dog out of their yard. The dog was an older pitbul and he stated he felt threatened. Very sad to have to help one neighbor bury their dog while the other retrieves his hunting orange vest and hat and walks around the neighborhood. We should have been celebrating we were spared the storms wrath.



if the teenager played with the dog for an hour why didnt he go tell the dog owner that it was out? If you recieved a phone call from the shooter then how do you know when he went to get his gun? were you outside to see everything that happened??????
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:05 PM

if i am not mistaken this dog has been a problem in this sub. before. knowing that animal control has been called several time in the past, why would the dog owner not be more responsible in keeping the dog up? from what i understand this dog has tried to attack other animals and people. being a animal lover and owner myself i know there is a leash law and would have to accept the outcome of my irresponsiblity of not keeping my animals properly restrained. how is this not justified. if this dog was in there yard and they have 6 week old puppies how do you know if they were not feeling threatened, by the pit attacking there puppies, or there children. Were you there to see this "TRAGEDY'' happen all the way to the end?
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:08 PM

That's what I thought.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:35 PM

People need to stop and think before they "post" stuff there is always 3 sides to every story Yours, mine, and the truth!!! as of now we only have 2 side your, and mine. Unless and until the "shooter" tells there side we will never know, and nor do most of you even care.


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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:39 PM

View Postpetlover85, on 04 March 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

if i am not mistaken this dog has been a problem in this sub. before. knowing that animal control has been called several time in the past, why would the dog owner not be more responsible in keeping the dog up? from what i understand this dog has tried to attack other animals and people. being a animal lover and owner myself i know there is a leash law and would have to accept the outcome of my irresponsiblity of not keeping my animals properly restrained. how is this not justified. if this dog was in there yard and they have 6 week old puppies how do you know if they were not feeling threatened, by the pit attacking there puppies, or there children. Were you there to see this "TRAGEDY'' happen all the way to the end?

K now, hold on. I dont think the OP deserves to be attacked because she posted on this event. She had little if anything to do with any of it. It was the owners responsibility to keep their dog put up, not hers.

My impression was that she felt that her neighborhood suffered because of the hard feelings created because her neighbors didn't do the right thing. But, I'll let her speak for herself cause it's none of my damn business anyway. I have an opinion, but that's about it.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:50 PM

View Postrockysmom, on 04 March 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

K now, hold on. I dont think the OP deserves to be attacked because she posted on this event. She had little if anything to do with any of it. It was the owners responsibility to keep their dog put up, not hers.

My impression was that she felt that her neighborhood suffered because of the hard feelings created because her neighbors didn't do the right thing. But, I'll let her speak for herself cause it's none of my damn business anyway. I have an opinion, but that's about it.


if she had little or nothing to do with it then how can she talk down about the shooter? when she has no idea for herself, she just knows the dog was shot. doesnt know why or how but the shooter is a bad person?



and again i will say there is her side, the shooters side and the truth!!!!
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 09:37 PM

View Postflower child, on 03 March 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:


The puppies are very little I think only about 6 weeks old they keep them in the house. When I was out with the kids yesterday they brought them out for me to see, very cute little things.



Where did the the puppies come from?
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 10:23 PM

View Postrockysmom, on 04 March 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

K now, hold on. I dont think the OP deserves to be attacked because she posted on this event. She had little if anything to do with any of it. It was the owners responsibility to keep their dog put up, not hers.

My impression was that she felt that her neighborhood suffered because of the hard feelings created because her neighbors didn't do the right thing. But, I'll let her speak for herself cause it's none of my damn business anyway. I have an opinion, but that's about it.

The OP damn near slandered (libeled) the neighbor.

I'm not a dog lover. I see a dog and expect it to attack. Some see a dog and see a poor defenseless pooch.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 12:24 AM

Stating a fact is not slander.

If a person can enter their home to retrieve a gun, they are not under immediate threat of attack by anything.

I've sent several large dogs running from my yard with a single shot from a BB gun. 6 shots is definitely excessive, not to mention dangerous to anyone in the vicinity. I'm pretty sure an animal that is fleeing is no longer a threat, if it ever was.

Not loving dogs is one thing, the idea that all dogs are a threat is irrational.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:51 AM

Did the man with the puppies have a permitfor his dog to have puppies?
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 08:18 AM

Wow, just wow. In none of my posts did I say this neighbor was a bad person. I actually said I was friendly with both neighbors. I had been to their house ( the shooters) and admired their puppies the day before. Why didn't the teenager take the dog home? I guess because she is a teenager I know she cried Saturday and said if she had Katanna would be alive. Did I see the tragedy NO I heard the gunshots immediately got a knock on my door saying Katanna was shot the same time the phone was ringing it was the shooters wife screaming we just shot Katanna. There are currently 5 pitbull or pitbull mixes in this neighborhood. To my knowledge animal control has never been called on this dog. I have never seen this dog attack anyone or anyones animals. I own dogs and cats one a very annoying little chi mix (who is quite the little yapper) and Katanna was afraid of him when I walk him. She has never attempted to hurt my 2 cats. We live directly next door. How dare you attack me, I didn't ask to get involved the shooters wife got me involved. She told me as I was standing over a bloody dog with a crying teenager (not mine another neighbors) standing next to me that they had called animal control had waited and when they didn't show up right away her husband shot the dog. Since you seem to have some history here I would love for you to ask the shooters wife why they called me after the dog was dead, why they didn't call me to come get the dog, or why they involved me at all. When animal control was issuing the ticket the Police Officer asked if there was any history with this dog and the Animal control Officer said NO. That is what I heard. It is sad for the whole neighborhood. My small children witnessed a white dog soaked in blood be carried from another neighbors yard, they heard the gunshots, they are now afraid of that neighbor. So you betcha it has now become the whole subdivisions problem. Everything I posted is what I personally saw and heard.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 08:31 AM

Flowerchild,
Obviously, petlover is new to interacting on this site and/or has a stick up their butt. Maybe the need to attack you for posting about this is more out of guilt. Is petlover the shooter or shooter's wife? It just seems odd that they'd log on here and start an account just to attack this post.
I am not at all surprised that your babies are scared of that neighbor. I'M scared of that neighbor!


PETLOVER,
You need to change your screen name to something like "Petlover...based on breed".
The original post was about the trauma of the violent and bloody situation that happened within feet of her home. I didn't read her story as gossip, I read it as a need for comfort during a shocking time.
As for the three sides issue: WERE YOU THERE? WHAT DID YOU SEE? DID YOU COMFORT THE CRYING CHILDREN? DID YOU COMFORT THE DYING DOG? If there's another version of these events, then why don't you post us a video?
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 08:50 AM

I have a strange feeling it is the shooters wife. They bought their puppies they were not born there. The puppies were bought to replace the puppy they bought last month and then let it accidently eat rat poison in their home (sadly that puppy did not survive) I also think the death of that puppy was a tragedy. My point both tragedys were preventable. There were other options. After we buried my neighbors dog Saturday I let the neighborhood kids pick every flower in my yard(even my Lenten Roses and I never pick them) and the kids had a funeral. Unfortunately that is the best we could do. Like I said there were other options.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:39 AM

Lessons learned.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:51 AM

What neighborhood was this in?


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Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:17 AM

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:13 PM

sorry this happened to you OP, and the dog. It was sweet of you to have a funeral. Clearly the shooter has issues. I feel bad for his wife, I can't imagine living with a man who would do that. Must be skeery.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:26 PM

Hard to believe that the shooter "feared for his life" if he had the opportunity to go in and then come back outside (where the viscous dog was) to shoot.

I think the SO missed it on this one. The guy was safe in side and could have easily called animal control to deal with the viscous dog.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:31 PM

calling AC is easy. AC being able to show up in time to catch said dog in the act of anything is nearly impossible.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:05 PM

View Postflower child, on 05 March 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

When animal control was issuing the ticket the Police Officer asked if there was any history with this dog and the Animal control Officer said NO.


Animal control issued at ticket to the dog owner or home owner?
What was the ticket issued for?
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:08 PM

The dog owner was ticketed for violation of the leash law.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 05:05 PM

Why did the homeowner get a ticket? Did they not see damage to the fence? Are they going to give everyone tickets that's animals got out during the storm Friday? I myself have a pitbull that is an 80 lb lap dog! He loves all people and even loves to play with smaller dogs and cats if they will play with him if not he runs away! If someone killed him that is like killing my child they would have a problem! By the way my dogs has a vet that he visits regularly and h
is up to date on all his shots just in case someone has a problem with the breed of dog I have!
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:32 PM

View Postrednekkhikkchikk, on 05 March 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:

Stating a fact is not slander.

If a person can enter their home to retrieve a gun, they are not under immediate threat of attack by anything.

I've sent several large dogs running from my yard with a single shot from a BB gun. 6 shots is definitely excessive, not to mention dangerous to anyone in the vicinity. I'm pretty sure an animal that is fleeing is no longer a threat, if it ever was.

Not loving dogs is one thing, the idea that all dogs are a threat is irrational.

If, at 6 years old, you saw your younger sister attacked by a dog (in our own yard no less), you would have the same belief. I'm sure someone loved that dog and it would never hurt a fly.

Bottom line---if a dog, cat, goat, or person is on my property without my consent, they are a threat to me and my family.

As ffor slander, the intent behind this thread is no doubt malicious.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:47 PM

View Postworkingforaliving, on 05 March 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

If, at 6 years old, you saw your younger sister attacked by a dog (in our own yard no less), you would have the same belief. I'm sure someone loved that dog and it would never hurt a fly.

Bottom line---if a dog, cat, goat, or person is on my property without my consent, they are a threat to me and my family.

As ffor slander, the intent behind this thread is no doubt malicious.

In the original post I don't see anything malicious. I think in order to be considered slanderous the OP would have to at least mention the name of the shooter, which she didn't.
I understand that some people feel threatened by certain animals. What does not make sense to me is how the shooter felt threatened from inside his home when he was getting his gun. If he called animal control I see no reason that he could not have waited, from inside his home, for them to arrive. If a grizzly bear was in my front yard I would not feel threatened if I could go inside my house and shut the door.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:53 PM

View Postfishnthec, on 05 March 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

In the original post I don't see anything malicious. I think in order to be considered slanderous the OP would have to at least mention the name of the shooter, which she didn't.
I understand that some people feel threatened by certain animals. What does not make sense to me is how the shooter felt threatened from inside his home when he was getting his gun. If he called animal control I see no reason that he could not have waited, from inside his home, for them to arrive. If a grizzly bear was in my front yard I would not feel threatened if I could go inside my house and shut the door.

He felt threatened enough to go get a gun to protect his family/property. That's all that matters.


Why should he be held captive inside his home?
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:25 PM

I am just so sad for this dog and for the people who loved her. My deepest sympathies :(
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 08:10 PM

If a grizzly bear was in my front yard I wouldn't bother with animal control because the safety of my family and neighbors is more important than giving the grizzly bear the benefit of the doubt. You're welcome, neighbors.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 08:26 PM

View Postflower child, on 03 March 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

A really sad day in our neighborhood. My neighbors fence was partially taken down by a tree and her dog escaped. This dog ran next door and played ball for about a half an hour with the teenager next door. When the teenager went inside the dog went across the street to another neighbor who was out. He promptly went in the house retrieved a pistol and shot the dog 5 times. This all hapened about 9:15 this morning I promptly received a call from the shooter to tell me to have my neighbor get her dead dog out of their yard. The dog was an older pitbul and he stated he felt threatened. Very sad to have to help one neighbor bury their dog while the other retrieves his hunting orange vest and hat and walks around the neighborhood. We should have been celebrating we were spared the storms wrath.

As a dog lover who has had every kind of dog from born blind to paralyzed for 11 years, etc., I wouldnt have a pit bull nor would I have anything to do with one.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 08:54 PM

View Postflower child, on 03 March 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

A really sad day in our neighborhood. My neighbors fence was partially taken down by a tree and her dog escaped. This dog ran next door and played ball for about a half an hour with the teenager next door. When the teenager went inside the dog went across the street to another neighbor who was out. He promptly went in the house retrieved a pistol and shot the dog 5 times. This all hapened about 9:15 this morning I promptly received a call from the shooter to tell me to have my neighbor get her dead dog out of their yard. The dog was an older pitbul and he stated he felt threatened. Very sad to have to help one neighbor bury their dog while the other retrieves his hunting orange vest and hat and walks around the neighborhood. We should have been celebrating we were spared the storms wrath.


I know this shooter and let me tell you......when I heard about this I instantly felt remorse for the dog and it's family. This guy is crazy! I know this because I dated him, worse mistake of my life. I know he has mental issues and have experimented with drugs. I'm not sure if he does drugs anymore but when he did he acted insane. I feel bad for his wife and anyone else associated with him. This incident shows just how much of a man he really is. Animal Control are trained individuals that handle cases like this every day. If he and his family were indoors, the dog was not a threat!!!!! If I lived in his neighborhood I would move instantly! Just some friendly advice.....

I hope that the dog's owner presses a significant amount of charges on this psychotic individual and he either gets mental help or goes to jail where he belongs.....

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:05 PM

View PostEXPAUDLINGCITIZEN, on 11 March 2012 - 08:54 PM, said:

I know this shooter and let me tell you......when I heard about this I instantly felt remorse for the dog and it's family. This guy is crazy! I know this because I dated him, worse mistake of my life. I know he has mental issues and have experimented with drugs. I'm not sure if he does drugs anymore but when he did he acted insane. I feel bad for his wife and anyone else associated with him. This incident shows just how much of a man he really is. Animal Control are trained individuals that handle cases like this every day. If he and his family were indoors, the dog was not a threat!!!!! If I lived in his neighborhood I would move instantly! Just some friendly advice.....

I hope that the dog's owner presses a significant amount of charges on this psychotic individual and he either gets mental help or goes to jail where he belongs.....

Sincerely,
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So.....why'd he dump you?
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:16 PM

View PostShananigans, on 11 March 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

So.....why'd he dump you?



Seriously???????? :blink:
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:25 PM

View PostShananigans, on 11 March 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

So.....why'd he dump you?


Ha! I really and seriously can't stop laughing at that question. I think it's pretty obvious! Anyone who knew us and our relationship in Paulding Co. knows that he got dumped! I was more career focused and head strong, he was more into drugs, cheating, and being manipulative to women. Clearly, we were never meant to be. I was stronger than he thought so he didn't get too far with me. :)

View PostBarbed wire, on 11 March 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

Seriously???????? :blink:


I mean really........
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:32 PM

View PostEXPAUDLINGCITIZEN, on 11 March 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Ha! I really and seriously can't stop laughing at that question. I think it's pretty obvious! Anyone who knew us and our relationship in Paulding Co. knows that he got dumped! I was more career focused and head strong, he was more into drugs, cheating, and being manipulative to women. Clearly, we were never meant to be. I was stronger than he thought so he didn't get too far with me. :)



I mean really........


Oh no. I would never laugh at someone who would date a crazed drug addict who cheats. Why did you date him? Do you have self esteem issues?
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:32 PM

View PostEXPAUDLINGCITIZEN, on 11 March 2012 - 08:54 PM, said:

I know this shooter and let me tell you......when I heard about this I instantly felt remorse for the dog and it's family. This guy is crazy! I know this because I dated him, worse mistake of my life. I know he has mental issues and have experimented with drugs. I'm not sure if he does drugs anymore but when he did he acted insane. I feel bad for his wife and anyone else associated with him. This incident shows just how much of a man he really is. Animal Control are trained individuals that handle cases like this every day. If he and his family were indoors, the dog was not a threat!!!!! If I lived in his neighborhood I would move instantly! Just some friendly advice.....

I hope that the dog's owner presses a significant amount of charges on this psychotic individual and he either gets mental help or goes to jail where he belongs.....

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bitter much???? how do you know who the shooter is when his name was never said?
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:48 PM

View PostShananigans, on 11 March 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Oh no. I would never laugh at someone who would date a crazed drug addict who cheats. Why did you date him? Do you have self esteem issues?



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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:54 PM

View PostShananigans, on 11 March 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Oh no. I would never laugh at someone who would date a crazed drug addict who cheats. Why did you date him? Do you have self esteem issues?


I dated him when I was in high school. I didn't know the person he was until after I dated him for a while....HINT HINT as I put in my previous post....He is manipulative!!!! I was a kid and I grew up, he fell behind. I'm curious as to why this post has become more about my relations with the shooter and not about the actual topic. As for self esteem issues..... I don't believe I have self esteem issues. I am perfectly happy with myself and wouldn't change a thing, thanks for asking.
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:56 PM

View PostEXPAUDLINGCITIZEN, on 11 March 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

I dated him when I was in high school. I didn't know the person he was until after I dated him for a while....HINT HINT as I put in my previous post....He is manipulative!!!! I was a kid and I grew up, he fell behind. I'm curious as to why this post has become more about my relations with the shooter and not about the actual topic. As for self esteem issues..... I don't believe I have self esteem issues. I am perfectly happy with myself and wouldn't change a thing, thanks for asking.



well, when you tell everyone your business on a public site then you should expect people to say stuff... i want to know who he is so i dont meet him somewhere.
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 10:00 PM

View Postpetlover85, on 11 March 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

bitter much???? how do you know who the shooter is when his name was never said?


I know the shooter's name because unfortunately we still have the same mutual friends. This story has spread because of his big mouth. It is also in the news. Bitter? Not so much. Happy that I'm not his wife and have his kids? YES! As I wrote before, I feel bad for anyone associated with this psycho!!
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 10:00 PM

I'm confused. What was it that told you that the guy you dated and this guy is one and the same?
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