[Mr.Dis]

So in the movie a woman is set up by her husband and convicted of his murder (but he is not really dead). He did it to get out of financial trouble. So she figures out he is still alive but can't convince anyone of this fact. She does her time in jail for his murder. When she gets out, she of course goes after him. Remember that you can not be tried for the SAME crime twice in the US. Well that is the concept anyway.


So here is my poll's concept...

Should someone accuse you of treating them in a specific manner, that you did not, should you go ahead and actually start treating them that way since they claim you do anyway?

[RhondaW]

I really wanted to click two: No, AND That is Beneath Me.

You are responsible for your own actions, and you reap what you sow.

[LPPT]

I am having trouble responding to the poll.
I am a very tolerant person,so I tend to not cop an attitude very quickly.
I think retaliation is simply an exercise in futility which is what I think you are talking about.
I simply write people off in my mind, so I think that would be close to it is beneath me.
People simply have personality traits that are probably not going to change, when I see a trait that I don't want to be engaged with I simply adopt indifference.
Some people are obsessed with being the windshield, I have to admit to having learned some positive life lessons when I have been the bug.
Perception is everything and it is one of the hardest things to change in people.
Your perceptions are your safety zones, you are going to have a hard time getting people to give up their security.

To answer your question, you always treat people in a manner that you can look at yourself in the mirror the next day. People justify retaliation and vengeance all the time. It leads to nothing but misery because it is self perpetuating.

[LPPT]

LPPT, on 18 February 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

I am having trouble responding to the poll.
I am a very tolerant person,so I tend to not cop an attitude very quickly.
I think retaliation is simply an exercise in futility which is what I think you are talking about.
I simply write people off in my mind, so I think that would be close to it is beneath me.
People simply have personality traits that are probably not going to change, when I see a trait that I don't want to be engaged with I simply adopt indifference.
Some people are obsessed with being the windshield, I have to admit to having learned some positive life lessons when I have been the bug.
Perception is everything and it is one of the hardest things to change in people.
Your perceptions are your safety zones, you are going to have a hard time getting people to give up their security.

To answer your question, you always treat people in a manner that you can look at yourself in the mirror the next day. People justify retaliation and vengeance all the time. It leads to nothing but misery because it is self perpetuating.

Oh! and for the record Mr. Dis, I have copped an attitude towards you! You are truly one of the more conservative people that participate on the board and that is why I will hang in a discussion with you and few others.

[PUBBY]

The obvious answer is no ... for we all know that two wrongs don't make a right.

That said, where this kind of behavior manifests itself most often is in the realm of self-fulfilling prophesy.

Typically this occurs when a person who would, if they could (and sometimes have and can) and therefore think everyone else given the opportunity will do so as well and so they have that expectation. As they express the expectation, as they project on to others, their attitudes, their shortcomings, their corruptions through accusation, they are actually encouraging the act. This is especially apparent in politics where all to often we accuse our opponents of doing the things we actually did and did first. On the back end of justifications it comes out as they did it .... too. (heard a lot during the days leading up to RMN resignation.)

pubby

[NC-17]

If I'm already in trouble for it, bet your butt I'm gonna make it worth it!!

[Mr.Dis]

LPPT, on 18 February 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

Oh! and for the record Mr. Dis, I have copped an attitude towards you! You are truly one of the more conservative people that participate on the board and that is why I will hang in a discussion with you and few others.

I have not noticed an attitude from you. Sometimes we just have to agree to disagree which is fine.

PUBBY, on 18 February 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

The obvious answer is no ... for we all know that two wrongs don't make a right.

That said, where this kind of behavior manifests itself most often is in the realm of self-fulfilling prophesy.

Typically this occurs when a person who would, if they could (and sometimes have and can) and therefore think everyone else given the opportunity will do so as well and so they have that expectation. As they express the expectation, as they project on to others, their attitudes, their shortcomings, their corruptions through accusation, they are actually encouraging the act. This is especially apparent in politics where all to often we accuse our opponents of doing the things we actually did and did first. On the back end of justifications it comes out as they did it .... too. (heard a lot during the days leading up to RMN resignation.)

pubby

Pubby, I actually agree with you on that.

[SPORTS SOURCE]

Didn't answer the poll, BUT.........



I LOVE that movie!!!!!

[Mr.Dis]

NC-17, on 18 February 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

If I'm already in trouble for it, bet your butt I'm gonna make it worth it!!

Now that is what I'm talking about!! Sometimes you just have to stoop to their level because it makes you feel better.


Yeah I know, we are all better than that. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. don't stoop to their level. All are sage advice but sometimes just leaves you still feeling pissed with nothing to show for it.



ETA I'm not seeing a "yes" up there that I would expect from you.

[jenilyn]

So, is this like when a person cheats on his or her spouse because he or she is being accused of it, so they figure they may as well go ahead & do it?

[Mr.Dis]

jenilyn, on 18 February 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

So, is this like when a person cheats on his or her spouse because he or she is being accused of it, so they figure they may as well go ahead & do it?

No... That is a vow you make to your spouse. Just because they break it does not give you the right to do the same. You promised to forgive and that is what you do. In regular life with say a coworker, it is a far different thing to be accused of "acting" some way towards a person even if you do not and then start to just go with it and treat them that way because they are already convinced you do.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

jenilyn, on 18 February 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

So, is this like when a person cheats on his or her spouse because he or she is being accused of it, so they figure they may as well go ahead & do it?

Get outta my head.

[copschick]

I said no in the poll, but really, there should have been a "given the situation it could go either way" type answer to choose from.

Granted, two wrongs do not make a right; however, there are some times where dammit, I'm mad as hell and I don't want to take it anymore! I live in a household where at times, I feel like I'm the only one who ever thinks about me. But I go on doing the things I always do for them despite how "unloved" I feel at times. I'm sure that we all feel that way, families just have a way of bringing out the best in one another lol.
But really, there are times, where I just want to give them as much thought as they give me.


I do think there are times when it is almost "justified" to treat someone how they say you treated them. If I was in Ashley Judd's character's position, you can bet your sweet tea I would kill his ass!

[gog8tors]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 18 February 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Get outta my head.

What/who is your avatar?

OP, some people don't understand the concept of agree to disagree. I find that they are easy marks for my wit, or I just ignore them. You are feeding their pity me party.

[copschick]

gog8tors, on 18 February 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

What/who is your avatar?

OP, some people don't understand the concept of agree to disagree. I find that they are easy marks for my wit, or I just ignore them. You are feeding their pity me party.

gog8tors, that would be Jax from Sons of Anarchy...holy wow...YUMMY!!!!! :drooling:

[Happy Wife And Mom]

gog8tors, on 18 February 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

What/who is your avatar?

Copschick already answered. His name is Charlie Hunnam.

[copschick]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 18 February 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Copschick already answered. His name is Charlie Hunnam.

Very lickable..um...I mean likeable

[gog8tors]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 18 February 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Copschick already answered. His name is Charlie Hunnam.

Oh, OK I don't watch that show.

copschick, on 18 February 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Very lickable..um...I mean likeable

Meh he's OK, needs a haircut.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

copschick, on 18 February 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Very lickable..um...I mean likeable

Unfortunately I don't like hearing him speak when he is out of "Jax" mode. I'm not fond of British accents

This post has been edited by Happy Wife And Mom: 18 February 2012 - 05:46 PM

[copschick]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 18 February 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Unfortunately I don't like hearing him speak when he is out of "Jax" mode/ I'm not fond of British accents

lol OH GOD I am!!!!!

[dana]

copschick, on 18 February 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Very lickable..um...I mean likeable

um,yeah! lol

[mei lan]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 18 February 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Unfortunately I don't like hearing him speak when he is out of "Jax" mode. I'm not fond of British accents

Oh, dear Lord - I think that's the saddest thing I've ever heard! British accents make me drool.

[deewee]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 18 February 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Unfortunately I don't like hearing him speak when he is out of "Jax" mode. I'm not fond of British accents

Me either.


And my answer to the poll is NO. There have been many, many times when I could've stooped to someone else's level, but I've found that if I just leave it alone and forgive them that God is MUCH better at getting them than I could ever hope to be. Plus, I can sleep at night knowing I've done my best at living with others in peace.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

mei lan, on 19 February 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:

Oh, dear Lord - I think that's the saddest thing I've ever heard! British accents make me drool.

They seem almost prissy/feminine

[jenilyn]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 19 February 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

They seem almost prissy/feminine

I'm with you, not my thing.

[Lady Raider]

Mr.Dis, on 18 February 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

So in the movie a woman is set up by her husband and convicted of his murder (but he is not really dead). He did it to get out of financial trouble. So she figures out he is still alive but can't convince anyone of this fact. She does her time in jail for his murder. When she gets out, she of course goes after him. Remember that you can not be tried for the SAME crime twice in the US. Well that is the concept anyway.


So here is my poll's concept...

Should someone accuse you of treating them in a specific manner, that you did not, should you go ahead and actually start treating them that way since they claim you do anyway?

I was just thinking about this movie last night, because of the new movie Ashley Judd was in last night.. lol

[scannin'yourheart]

Lady Raider, on 16 March 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

I was just thinking about this movie last night, because of the new movie Ashley Judd was in last night.. lol

One thing that no one has brought up is that in that particular movie her child was involved and being kept from her. Now we all know that all bets are off when it comes to our kids.