[SouthernChickie]

I don't know how to break this to you...but there's this thing called a school bus. It actually picks up (and drops off!) children to and from school Sometimes if you're lucky it will actually pick the little monsters up right in your driveway!!! (I mean OMG, who knew, right?) If the smoking and idling offend you, you might want to actually stick your kid on said schoolbus, so your 'delicate sensibilities' won't be offended by all that chain smoking and sensless idling..... (see the smilley face? It means I am trying to be nice about it!!)

Please file this post under, get a life........

[starzplace]

OUCH

[Skooter92]

I guess I need to get a life too then...whether my child is picked up by me or the school bus is not the point here. The point is it's prohibited on school property. PERIOD. My child still attends these schools where these people who think they are above and beyond the law still break the law by doing something prohibited. Honestly it is teaching the kids there that they don't have to follow rules and laws either...and we wonder why kids are the way they are these days. O.o

There are at least 3 people in line waiting for children AS THE BUSES ARE BEING LOADED that smoke in their vehicles on school property, which ironically enough has 3 signs posted that state SMOKING PROHIBITED, DRUG FREE ZONE (which includes tobacco btw), and the laws of said things on property. And as I stated before a smoking section anywhere is like having a peeing section in the pool...smoke and pee go everywhere in both instances.

Yes I do smoke, do I smoke on school grounds? No, and I don't smoke in my car when she is in it nor do I smoke in the house.

I think if these parents can't wait the 15-45 minutes to get their kid and smoke away OFF OF SCHOOL PROPERTY then they have serious issues.

And BTW...my child and keeping her healthy is my life.

This post has been edited by Skooter92: 17 November 2011 - 10:19 AM

[Lucky64]

Skooter92, on 17 November 2011 - 10:18 AM, said:

I guess I need to get a life too then...whether my child is picked up by me or the school bus is not the point here. The point is it's prohibited on school property. PERIOD. My child still attends these schools where these people who think they are above and beyond the law still break the law by doing something prohibited. Honestly it is teaching the kids there that they don't have to follow rules and laws either...and we wonder why kids are the way they are these days. O.o

There are at least 3 people in line waiting for children AS THE BUSES ARE BEING LOADED that smoke in their vehicles on school property, which ironically enough has 3 signs posted that state SMOKING PROHIBITED, DRUG FREE ZONE (which includes tobacco btw), and the laws of said things on property. And as I stated before a smoking section anywhere is like having a peeing section in the pool...smoke and pee go everywhere in both instances.

Yes I do smoke, do I smoke on school grounds? No, and I don't smoke in my car when she is in it nor do I smoke in the house.

I think if these parents can't wait the 15-45 minutes to get their kid and smoke away OFF OF SCHOOL PROPERTY then they have serious issues.

And BTW...my child and keeping her healthy is my life.

You don't smoke in your home nor your car. I'm a smoker. I smoke in one room of the house with window open and I smoke in my truck. However, when I need to smoke and I'm on school grounds, I will leave the campus, go smoke, then return. It's not to difficult. I'm just wondering why you even bother to smoke? You are dang near a non-smoker and that is something to be proud of. I say, go for it, you can do it, and you will be much healthier when I can't go 4 hours without one.

[Skooter92]

Lucky64, on 17 November 2011 - 10:24 AM, said:

You don't smoke in your home nor your car. I'm a smoker. I smoke in one room of the house with window open and I smoke in my truck. However, when I need to smoke and I'm on school grounds, I will leave the campus, go smoke, then return. It's not to difficult. I'm just wondering why you even bother to smoke? You are dang near a non-smoker and that is something to be proud of. I say, go for it, you can do it, and you will be much healthier when I can't go 4 hours without one.

Well Lucky I do smoke in my car...just not often. I go outside to smoke, that's just the rule I set when my daughter was born. I thank you for going off school grounds to smoke, I wish others would.

I have no problem with people who smoke, not at all...
I do however have a problem with the ones that smoke on school grounds when it is clearly marked it is prohibited.

And I am trying to quit, I've done it before I can do it again! Thanks.

[stercus tauri]

I smoke 3 packs a day and will do so wherever I wish on my own property. If it is in public, never.

[chickens]

tripletmom2000, on 15 November 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

All of the schools are a NO smoking....if you are an employee, you have to get in your car and leave the school grounds to light up! So I would complain everyday to the front office.

Are the employees clocking out or keeping up with the time being used smoking. With the budget cuts and furlough days you would think every minute had to be accounted for. I know of a few (not teachers) that leave several times through out the day to smoke. So yes, they leave the school grounds.Unless they break their lunch time into mini breaks its still an expense to someone or something. The regulation is there for a reason.

[tbird]

chickens, on 17 November 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

Are the employees clocking out or keeping up with the time being used smoking. With the budget cuts and furlough days you would think every minute had to be accounted for. I know of a few (not teachers) that leave several times through out the day to smoke. So yes, they leave the school grounds.Unless they break their lunch time into mini breaks its still an expense to someone or something. The regulation is there for a reason.

OMG. I get so tired of hearing everybody say that smokers take too much time off from their job to go smoke.

When I worked with a bunch of non-smokers and they would gripe about it--I finally told them that we would keep up with my smoking time and their personal phone calls and see who comes out on top. It was about that time that they usually shut up!!!

[Lucky64]

chickens, on 17 November 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

Are the employees clocking out or keeping up with the time being used smoking. With the budget cuts and furlough days you would think every minute had to be accounted for. I know of a few (not teachers) that leave several times through out the day to smoke. So yes, they leave the school grounds.Unless they break their lunch time into mini breaks its still an expense to someone or something. The regulation is there for a reason.

If it's their planning or lunch (depending what level of school they work at for the lunch break) and have the permission of the administrators, it's none of your damn business on what they do.
Do YOU run errands on your lunch break? Do you go out for food on your lunch break? Then you should be docked as well.

You are really grasping at straws here and it's pissing me off. IF THEY AREN'T SMOKING ON GROUNDS THEN IT'S NON OF YOUR BUSINESS ON WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT TIME THEY LEAVE THE GROUNDS TO DO SO.

Now, there is a sign that stipulates NO SMOKING...DRUG FREE...obey the signs and there won't be a problem. Simple as that. If these parents continue to break the rule of the non-smoking policy, then they should suffer the consenquences.

[dana]

Lucky64, on 17 November 2011 - 04:53 PM, said:

If it's their planning or lunch (depending what level of school they work at for the lunch break) and have the permission of the administrators, it's none of your damn business on what they do.
Do YOU run errands on your lunch break? Do you go out for food on your lunch break? Then you should be docked as well.

You are really grasping at straws here and it's pissing me off. IF THEY AREN'T SMOKING ON GROUNDS THEN IT'S NON OF YOUR BUSINESS ON WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT TIME THEY LEAVE THE GROUNDS TO DO SO.

Now, there is a sign that stipulates NO SMOKING...DRUG FREE...obey the signs and there won't be a problem. Simple as that. If these parents continue to break the rule of the non-smoking policy, then they should suffer the consenquences.

Kinda what I was thinking, but you said it oh so much better sista!

[NewsJunky]

chickens, on 17 November 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

Are the employees clocking out or keeping up with the time being used smoking. With the budget cuts and furlough days you would think every minute had to be accounted for. I know of a few (not teachers) that leave several times through out the day to smoke. So yes, they leave the school grounds.Unless they break their lunch time into mini breaks its still an expense to someone or something. The regulation is there for a reason.

I believe under current labor laws the employer has to give a break and time for lunch every few hours during the day. I would think that time belongs to the employee. I doubt they would need to clock out if they work in a school system. I do not think most teachers are paid by the hour.

[Skooter92]

Lucky64, on 17 November 2011 - 04:53 PM, said:

If it's their planning or lunch (depending what level of school they work at for the lunch break) and have the permission of the administrators, it's none of your damn business on what they do.
Do YOU run errands on your lunch break? Do you go out for food on your lunch break? Then you should be docked as well.

You are really grasping at straws here and it's pissing me off. IF THEY AREN'T SMOKING ON GROUNDS THEN IT'S NON OF YOUR BUSINESS ON WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT TIME THEY LEAVE THE GROUNDS TO DO SO.

Now, there is a sign that stipulates NO SMOKING...DRUG FREE...obey the signs and there won't be a problem. Simple as that. If these parents continue to break the rule of the non-smoking policy, then they should suffer the consenquences.

Thank you Lucky!

[Veritas]

NewsJunky, on 17 November 2011 - 05:13 PM, said:

I believe under current labor laws the employer has to give a break and time for lunch every few hours during the day. I would think that time belongs to the employee. I doubt they would need to clock out if they work in a school system. I do not think most teachers are paid by the hour.

It is true that teachers are not, in most circumstances, paid by the hour. They are "exempt" employees and, as such, are not covered by the wage and hour provisions of the Fair Standards Labor Act. Therefore, they would not need to "clock out" for timekeeping purposes. In fact, as exempt employees, no law guarantees them a break. It is customary for them to get a lunch "break," but many are required to work during their lunch by supervising the lunchroom. Only elementary teachers are required by Georgia state law to get a thirty minute duty-free lunch.

Having said that, most teachers are required to sign out and/or obtain permission when leaving the campus--not as a wage and hour matter, but so that the school knows where they are at all times. If there is an emergency during lunch, teachers need to get to their students.

[NewsJunky]

Veritas, on 17 November 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

It is true that teachers are not, in most circumstances, paid by the hour. They are "exempt" employees and, as such, are not covered by the wage and hour provisions of the Fair Standards Labor Act. Therefore, they would not need to "clock out" for timekeeping purposes. In fact, as exempt employees, no law guarantees them a break. It is customary for them to get a lunch "break," but many are required to work during their lunch by supervising the lunchroom. Only elementary teachers are required by Georgia state law to get a thirty minute duty-free lunch.

Having said that, most teachers are required to sign out and/or obtain permission when leaving the campus--not as a wage and hour matter, but so that the school knows where they are at all times. If there is an emergency during lunch, teachers need to get to their students.

Thank you. That makes perfect sense.

[Oh No Its Me]

I'm shocked at how many people are missing the issue.

The issue isn't people smoking in their cars, it is people smoking (or idling) where they shouldn't be.

People have such a hard time thinking of others. If you want to idle go for it, preferably in your garage with your garage door closed.

[mrnn]

Oh No Its Me, on 18 November 2011 - 10:26 AM, said:

I'm shocked at how many people are missing the issue.

The issue isn't people smoking in their cars, it is people smoking (or idling) where they shouldn't be.

People have such a hard time thinking of others. If you want to idle go for it, preferably in your garage with your garage door closed.

I don't put much stock in folks pretending to care about air pollution while driving their personal vehicles daily to the school to pick up/drop off their children instead of putting them on a school bus.


mrnn

[Skooter92]

As I sit here staring at one of the 2 "DRUG FREE SCHOOL ZONE" signs with the yellow sign underneath which has NOTICE and the rules, fines and punishment listed...

I will pass the other one that states what is PROHIBITED on school grounds.

[Countrychic]

When I went to North Cobb High School we actually had a smoking area ( we called it the smoking hole ) right outside the cafeteria a fenced area where you were allowed to smoke , student or teacher. LOL Boy arent we glad we are so much more protective of our kids these days , cause it really did us a lot of harm.

LOL :-)

[Oh No Its Me]

mrnn, on 18 November 2011 - 12:00 PM, said:

I don't put much stock in folks pretending to care about air pollution while driving their personal vehicles daily to the school to pick up/drop off their children instead of putting them on a school bus.


mrnn

Maybe they pick their kids up and drop them off due to work schedules.

This isn't about air quality, it's about laws and breaking them.

Last I checked it wasn't illegal to drive your kid to school or pick them up

[A Gipper Girl]

SouthernChickie, on 16 November 2011 - 09:33 PM, said:

I don't know how to break this to you...but there's this thing called a school bus. It actually picks up (and drops off!) children to and from school Sometimes if you're lucky it will actually pick the little monsters up right in your driveway!!! (I mean OMG, who knew, right?) If the smoking and idling offend you, you might want to actually stick your kid on said schoolbus, so your 'delicate sensibilities' won't be offended by all that chain smoking and sensless idling..... (see the smilley face? It means I am trying to be nice about it!!)

Please file this post under, get a life........

Yeah! Stick your kid on a bus instead of having to deal with other people to fend for or protect your child! I say just make em all walk home. They need the excercise and it'll be less time you actually have to deal with the little bra...I mean, darlings, at home.

You can have a life then.

[mrnn]

Oh No Its Me, on 20 November 2011 - 09:35 PM, said:

Maybe they pick their kids up and drop them off due to work schedules.

If they're in ASP, you don't sit there waiting for an hour...you park, run in, grab them, and drive away. Rest assured, if you're waiting an hour to pick up your kids it's because you're picking them up at the regular release time.

Oh No Its Me, on 20 November 2011 - 09:35 PM, said:

This isn't about air quality, it's about laws and breaking them.

The laws are in place because of air pollution. Driving to school on a daily basis in a personal vehicle is far from environmentally friendly. And why is not environmentally friendly? Because it causes air pollution.

Oh No Its Me, on 20 November 2011 - 09:35 PM, said:

Last I checked it wasn't illegal to drive your kid to school or pick them up

You're right, nor is it necessary to come on a community message board, pretend your holier than thou, and bitch about other parents whose equally pathetic lives allow them to sit in the freaking school pick-up line for an hour.


mrnn

[Skooter92]

When I was working...I took my child to school everyday, I also would sit in the pick up line for 30 minutes or longer to get her instead of passing the school and turning around to come back. If I would have waited for the bus in those instances she would have been late for appointments.
Gipper girl... I will NOT have my 10 yr old walking down hwy. 61 period....

And again...you morons are not catching the point here...it is ILLEGAL TO SMOKE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY...PERIOD!
As far as the idiling...that must be at that school only because there are no signs like that at ours.

[Oh No Its Me]

Skooter92, on 21 November 2011 - 08:00 AM, said:

And again...you morons are not catching the point here...it is ILLEGAL TO SMOKE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY...PERIOD!
As far as the idiling...that must be at that school only because there are no signs like that at ours.

Hun, it's just time to walk away. You can't cure stupid.

[Lucky64]

We're still on this subject? How many times can one say "Don't smoke on School grounds!"

It's not hard to comprehend!

[Oh No Its Me]

Lucky64, on 21 November 2011 - 12:17 PM, said:

We're still on this subject? How many times can one say "Don't smoke on School grounds!"

It's not hard to comprehend!

I know right?

It's hard to comprehend for quite a few people in Paulding County.

[Skooter92]

Oh No Its Me, on 21 November 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

Hun, it's just time to walk away. You can't cure stupid.

Sometimes stupid should hurt...

Lucky64, on 21 November 2011 - 12:17 PM, said:

We're still on this subject? How many times can one say "Don't smoke on School grounds!"

It's not hard to comprehend!

Right?!

Oh No Its Me, on 21 November 2011 - 12:19 PM, said:

I know right?

It's hard to comprehend for quite a few people in Paulding County.

I'm from Paulding and I thought this was all in plain English. Guess not! O.o

This post has been edited by Skooter92: 22 November 2011 - 10:13 AM

[kevrod]

I don't know where to start to help you with this situation, but this is a very serious problem that definitely needs to be addressed! I am trying to to determine the depth of your angst. You obviously have a problem not only with the smoking, but also SUV's and female's because neither of the latter two are relevant to your argument but you felt the need to point out. Are you hoping someone else will notice this lady,in this SUV,and have the nerve to confront her? But here are a few options to help you remedy this problem:

Option A:

Demand the immediate termination of the principal you have contacted about this situation! He is obviously preoccupied with your child's education to take care of something as serious as policing the parking lot for illegal smoking activity!

Option B:

Get to school earlier than the female in the grey SUV! This way you will be the first in line and therefore will not have to look out your front glass and see her smoke 3 to 5 cigarettes everyday!

Option C:

Get to school later! That way you will be further back and not to be able to see the female in the grey SUV smoke 3 to 5 cigarettes a day!

Option D:

This is my personal favorite! Walk up and pick up a cigarette butt and throw it back in her window! Tell her that there will be no more Idling her grey SUV or smoking 3 to 5 cigarettes while waiting for the children to get out of school! Tell her that you have warned her 2 times, this being her first and last warning!

And by the way, Happy Thanksgiving!

Hopper626, on 14 November 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

To some, this may just be me being overbearing....But I gotta Vent

So, I sit in line day after day to pick up my child from Elelmentary school, which for now will remain nameless. Each day There is one specific SUV, Grey in color and a cheerleading magnet on the back. The female driver smokes about 3-5 cigarettes a day while waiting for dismissal, then proceeds to toss her butts into the parking lot. Now, There are clearly signs on school grounds which state: NO SMOKING along side the NO IDLING sign. Both impact our kiddos lungs. I have called the school, talked to the principal, and even dropped hints to this person when seen in public but she continues tossing her butts in the parking lot, not to mention she sits IDLING from 1:30 to 2:30 when car riders are dismissed. Am I wrong in thinking the school needs to say something to her? They know who shes is, what she drives, when she is there (she is ALWAYS the 1st car). Could she actually get a ticket for littering?

[stercus tauri]

mrnn, on 18 November 2011 - 12:00 PM, said:

I don't put much stock in folks pretending to care about air pollution while driving their personal vehicles daily to the school to pick up/drop off their children instead of putting them on a school bus.


mrnn

Kisses to you!

[haolejohn]

Hopper626, on 14 November 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

To some, this may just be me being overbearing....But I gotta Vent

So, I sit in line day after day to pick up my child from Elelmentary school, which for now will remain nameless. Each day There is one specific SUV, Grey in color and a cheerleading magnet on the back. The female driver smokes about 3-5 cigarettes a day while waiting for dismissal, then proceeds to toss her butts into the parking lot. Now, There are clearly signs on school grounds which state: NO SMOKING along side the NO IDLING sign. Both impact our kiddos lungs. I have called the school, talked to the principal, and even dropped hints to this person when seen in public but she continues tossing her butts in the parking lot, not to mention she sits IDLING from 1:30 to 2:30 when car riders are dismissed. Am I wrong in thinking the school needs to say something to her? They know who shes is, what she drives, when she is there (she is ALWAYS the 1st car). Could she actually get a ticket for littering?

One time a friend of mine was sitting behind a car where the driver was smoking up a storm. after watching the third cancer stick come flying out the window, he put the car in park and walked over and picked up all the butts, knocked on the window and handed the butts back to the driver and asked that they not litter. It was one of the funniest things I ever saw.

[Greatma]

I was at an elementary school yesterday, and there was a person in the pickup lane smoking in her car.
Guess what, she was asked to put it out. She was very nice about it. Folks a rule or law ia what it is.

[cootsmama]

momof 3, on 14 November 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

I'm totally with you on this one.


I always want to tell a smoker that if they think smoking is so great, then keep your butts and ashes INSIDE your car. If they think it's so gross that they have to litter and expose everyone to their bad habit, then why do they do it?

[cootsmama]

I wish some of these same people that complain about smoking would actually complain about something that really matters. How many of their little angels take meds out of the bathroom cabinet or sneak the liquor from the cabinet. These things actually change the personality and thought process. I would be willing to bet that a lot of these same parents keep their little angels "duhhed out" on some kind of ADD/ADHD meds because they don't want to take care or discipline the child. Smoking does not affect the brain or thought process like the drugs or alcohol does.

[extrablue]

The way 'they' dress at open house is NOTHING - just stand and watch some as they come in some mornings - honestly PJs - slippers (and not cutesy ones!!!)- bed head - "TRASHY" is putting it mildly! And then there's the hellacious cigarette smoke smell ON the children and on their bookbags and even their papers that YOU CANNOT STAND IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and we wonder why they don't take time to work with their children??@!?!@?)

[Greatma]

Hopper626, on 14 November 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

To some, this may just be me being overbearing....But I gotta Vent

So, I sit in line day after day to pick up my child from Elelmentary school, which for now will remain nameless. Each day There is one specific SUV, Grey in color and a cheerleading magnet on the back. The female driver smokes about 3-5 cigarettes a day while waiting for dismissal, then proceeds to toss her butts into the parking lot. Now, There are clearly signs on school grounds which state: NO SMOKING along side the NO IDLING sign. Both impact our kiddos lungs. I have called the school, talked to the principal, and even dropped hints to this person when seen in public but she continues tossing her butts in the parking lot, not to mention she sits IDLING from 1:30 to 2:30 when car riders are dismissed. Am I wrong in thinking the school needs to say something to her? They know who shes is, what she drives, when she is there (she is ALWAYS the 1st car). Could she actually get a ticket for littering?

Do what I did, Dee Morris is over the Resource o9fficers. Call her at the sheriffs
office, 770 443 3010, ask her to have a resource office to be out there one day during
carrider. They can set them straight.

[Greatma]

Oh No Its Me, on 18 November 2011 - 10:26 AM, said:

I'm shocked at how many people are missing the issue.

The issue isn't people smoking in their cars, it is people smoking (or idling) where they shouldn't be.

People have such a hard time thinking of others. If you want to idle go for it, preferably in your garage with your garage door closed.

This is so true, some people thing they are above the law. To the person
in the grey Ford truck at SPMS, if you are they tomorrow and throw yours the
driveway, I am going to pick it up and give it back to you. Then I will just
point at the sign.