One would think that since the subfinder is used by schools nationwide that it would be a better program. We should be able to put in our 1st choice phone number to be called and our 2nd choice. We should also be able to enter the schools where we want to substitute. I wonder how much the county has to pay to use this system.
I know that where I substituted at almost everyday last year there was a teacher out all week and she had a different sub everyday. The students said that they hated it because it was confusing having someone different come in everyday and give them different directions and having to figure out what has gone on the past days.
This post has been edited by whatzup?: 19 August 2011 - 02:07 PM
One would think that since the subfinder is used by schools nationwide that it would be a better program. We should be able to put in our 1st choice phone number to be called and our 2nd choice. We should also be able to enter the schools where we want to substitute. I wonder how much the county has to pay to use this system.
I know that where I substituted at almost everyday last year there was a teacher out all week and she had a different sub everyday. The students said that they hated it because it was confusing having someone different come in everyday and give them different directions and having to figure out what has gone on the past days.
You get phone calls? I thought you call the number and it will tell you if there is a job or you go to the computer. I heard a parapro say that the teacher was out most of this week and they had a different sub everyday as well.
Today I got a phone call from an actual person from a school I have subbed at lots of times because the sub that accepted on subfinder didn't show up. I wish I could have taken the job but since I didn't have a job today I met a friend to shop and was too far away.
Lucky64, on 19 August 2011 - 02:23 PM, said:
You get phone calls? I thought you call the number and it will tell you if there is a job or you go to the computer. I heard a parapro say that the teacher was out most of this week and they had a different sub everyday as well.
The 2nd week of school I started getting automated calls from subfinder, but they have stopped. Don't know why I don't get them anymore, I just click on subfinder if I am home from time to time and it always says no jobs available, but I have been told that they had 4 new subs today at the school that I was subbing at almost everyday. I don't know how these subs are getting the jobs...
One would think that since the subfinder is used by schools nationwide that it would be a better program. We should be able to put in our 1st choice phone number to be called and our 2nd choice. We should also be able to enter the schools where we want to substitute. I wonder how much the county has to pay to use this system.
I know that where I substituted at almost everyday last year there was a teacher out all week and she had a different sub everyday. The students said that they hated it because it was confusing having someone different come in everyday and give them different directions and having to figure out what has gone on the past days.
That's odd because last week when this was discussed on here, someone said the teacher can actually go in and requst the sub he/she wants and for the length of time he/she will be out.
I called at 6:33am earlier this week, but it wouldn't let me be absent from work. I said f-it and went to work. I was in a lot of pain, but I toughed it out.
workingforaliving, on 19 August 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:
I called at 6:33am earlier this week, but it wouldn't let me be absent from work. I said f-it and went to work. I was in a lot of pain, but I toughed it out.
I HATE subfinder.
Just curious why didn't you just call the school when the secretary got there? I'm sure she would have called a sub for you. That was just awful to go to work with such pain like that.
Just thinkin, on 19 August 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:
I've never seen an available job on sub finder. I sent an email to the old sub coordinator to find out if I did something wrong.
You didn't do anything wrong, I'm hearing it is hard to get a job on subfinder.
whatzup?, on 19 August 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:
Today I got a phone call from an actual person from a school I have subbed at lots of times because the sub that accepted on subfinder didn't show up. I wish I could have taken the job but since I didn't have a job today I met a friend to shop and was too far away.
The 2nd week of school I started getting automated calls from subfinder, but they have stopped. Don't know why I don't get them anymore, I just click on subfinder if I am home from time to time and it always says no jobs available, but I have been told that they had 4 new subs today at the school that I was subbing at almost everyday. I don't know how these subs are getting the jobs...
A friend of mine said that she has her son, husband and of course herself on the computer clicking away until she can fill the week with jobs.
That's odd because last week when this was discussed on here, someone said the teacher can actually go in and requst the sub he/she wants and for the length of time he/she will be out.
I don't think that's correct. I think the teacher just puts in the request, but I might be wrong. So far, lots of glitches with the system.
I don't think that's correct. I think the teacher just puts in the request, but I might be wrong. So far, lots of glitches with the system.
Yes, a teacher can request a certain sub on the subfinder. There suppose to be some kind of dropdown box that have the subs names. If the teacher doesn't do a request for a certain sub then it goes on the finder for all the subs to pounce on. LMBO!
I HATE SUBFINDER!!! There are never any jobs posted on the stupid thing.
Teachers can request a certain sub but that doesn't mean you will get it. Supposedly the job is first posted on the subfinder site to everyone and then if it is not taken the first person the system will call is the requested sub.
This is the worse system in history.
This post has been edited by MommaS: 20 August 2011 - 08:04 PM
That's odd because last week when this was discussed on here, someone said the teacher can actually go in and requst the sub he/she wants and for the length of time he/she will be out.
I was told that the teacher that had a different sub everyday did request a sub. but someone else showed up. So I just have not figured out how it works and some teachers aren't sure. I have had teachers tell me that they would request me if they knew how and if I figured it out to let them know.
I HATE SUBFINDER!!! There are never any jobs posted on the stupid thing.
Teachers can request a certain sub but that doesn't mean you will get it. Supposively the job is first posted on the subfinder site to everyone and then if it is not taken the first person the system will call is the requested sub.
This is the worse system in history.
my husband checked into sub finder and said that he believes that it is a very bad system. Especially since it is used by so many school systems. He is professional that deals with may different types of systems and thinks we should be able to do more with subfinder, it is sooo basic. Why would we pay to use something so inadequate?
my husband checked into sub finder and said that he believes that it is a very bad system. Especially since it is used by so many school systems. He is professional that deals with may different types of systems and thinks we should be able to do more with subfinder, it is sooo basic. Why would we pay to use something so inadequate?
I don't understand "something so inadequate." It has taken the load off the secretary, so she can focus on other things. Like I said it is working 100% perfect for me. What do you expect it to do? It post jobs and you have a chance just like everyone else to get the job.
I don't understand "something so inadequate." It has taken the load off the secretary, so she can focus on other things. Like I said it is working 100% perfect for me. What do you expect it to do? It post jobs and you have a chance just like everyone else to get the job.
everytime I click on subfinder it says no jobs avaliable. I have talked to subs that in the past yrs. have worked every day and now have worked twice since the beginning of the yr. The teachers I had lunch w/ last week say they don't like it. Maybe it will improve in the future.
workingforaliving, on 19 August 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:
I called at 6:33am earlier this week, but it wouldn't let me be absent from work. I said f-it and went to work. I was in a lot of pain, but I toughed it out.
I HATE subfinder.
please don't use subfinder to choose subs that use the word supposively.
I think the people that like it are those that were not regularly getting calls from the schools because they were unreliable, let the kids goof off, let them use ipods, etc. Now they can get on subfinder and get to sub more often.
please don't use subfinder to choose subs that use the word supposively.
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I've used subfinder twice. Once I requested a sub. She accepted and will be subbing for me. The other time was short notice because of a death in the family. I didn't request a sub, and it was filled immediately.
We're seeing lots of new faces in the schools. Many other subs. As a teachers, it makes me a little nervous because I wonder if the sub I've never heard of will do a good job. On the other hand, who's to say that the subs we've always used were the best? Maybe some of these new ones will be even better for our students.
I think if it takes the responsibility off of our administrators and secretaries to find subs for all of us, it's a good thing. Yes, it's different, but it's easy enough.
everytime I click on subfinder it says no jobs avaliable. I have talked to subs that in the past yrs. have worked every day and now have worked twice since the beginning of the yr. The teachers I had lunch w/ last week say they don't like it. Maybe it will improve in the future.
I have heard totally different....they all love it. Where does it need to improve? You request a sub, it's filled. What more does it need to do. Maybe "rate a sub". I do not know.
I think the people that like it are those that were not regularly getting calls from the schools because they were unreliable, let the kids goof off, let them use ipods, etc. Now they can get on subfinder and get to sub more often.
REALLY? I have been subbing for 6 years....so if I like subfinder and it is working for me, I was unreliable, let the kids goof off, let them use ipods...? I really DO NOT appreciate you saying that about me. I have ALWAYS GOT jobs personally by the secretary of the school....However I beleive she tried to spread the jobs out equally. So don't think "I'M UNRELIABLE" for getting Jobs! Don't tell me how I sub just because I get jobs. All I can say is WOW.
REALLY? I have been subbing for 6 years....so if I like subfinder and it is working for me, I was unreliable, let the kids goof off, let them use ipods...? I really DO NOT appreciate you saying that about me. I have ALWAYS GOT jobs personally by the secretary of the school....However I beleive she tried to spread the jobs out equally. So don't think "I'M UNRELIABLE" for getting Jobs! Don't tell me how I sub just because I get jobs. All I can say is WOW.
Sorry you thought I was talking about you. I was making a general statement I didn't click on your post or do anything to state I was talking about you for all I know you are the worlds best sub. I was talking about the ones I have worked with before who have shocked me.
One time when I subbed for the 1st time at a school I was to co-teach 1 class w/ another sub and I had told the students before she came in no to the I-pods & she came in and told me YES they can use I-pods because I sub here all the time and I say they can.
Another time a different sub I was co-teaching with talked about one of the students (in a bad way) during class. The next day she got a phone call from that students parent threatening to harm her so she walked out on her class that she was the only adult in and came to my room to yell at me because she thought I had told that parent what she had said. I had never met that sub before & I don't know the students parents and I had't said anything to anyone. She was just crazy. She is the same person that let her 15 year old daughter drive alone to a friends house during the ice storm and wreck her car. Is this really the type of people we want in control of our children at school. The people in the front office knew these things and stopped calling them.
I know a well respected sub in the school system that substituted every day that she wanted because she was the schools top go to sub. She used to sub in Cobb County and she said that she hated subfinder when she used it in Cobb and will probably just quit. She said she does not have time or the desire to sit at a computer and click on it all day.
I know a well respected sub in the school system that substituted every day that she wanted because she was the schools top go to sub. She used to sub in Cobb County and she said that she hated subfinder when she used it in Cobb and will probably just quit. She said she does not have time or the desire to sit at a computer and click on it all day.
That's my thing - am I really supposed to sit here all day hoping that something might pop up? I haven't seen anything on subfinder - I'm not even sure that it works. I only really sub for a couple of teachers because, quite frankly, it's more of my way of giving to the school than a job. ?? I understand this takes alot off the front office staff, but it's kinda ridculous on this end.
And, since subs can't access the computers during the day - how do they line up the next days work? Are they just screwed because someone else is sitting at home watching the computer?
Sorry you thought I was talking about you. I was making a general statement I didn't click on your post or do anything to state I was talking about you for all I know you are the worlds best sub. I was talking about the ones I have worked with before who have shocked me.
One time when I subbed for the 1st time at a school I was to co-teach 1 class w/ another sub and I had told the students before she came in no to the I-pods & she came in and told me YES they can use I-pods because I sub here all the time and I say they can.
Another time a different sub I was co-teaching with talked about one of the students (in a bad way) during class. The next day she got a phone call from that students parent threatening to harm her so she walked out on her class that she was the only adult in and came to my room to yell at me because she thought I had told that parent what she had said. I had never met that sub before & I don't know the students parents and I had't said anything to anyone. She was just crazy. She is the same person that let her 15 year old daughter drive alone to a friends house during the ice storm and wreck her car. Is this really the type of people we want in control of our children at school. The people in the front office knew these things and stopped calling them.
I have seen horrible things as well that it floors me. And yes they were regular subs.....I have also seen things from teachers that floor me as well. I have always felt that some of the subs SHOULD NOT BE SUBBING due to how they engaged with the kids. I have always treated this as a job, not a social place. I do not want to be these kids friends. I am there to do what the teacher asks of me and maintain control. With that being said, I do get classes that are out of control and it's very hard. I always do my best. I agree with the parent part. I believe you can tell how a sub will be as to how she controls her own kids. If the front office new of the things I saw this sub doing (on and off campus), they would not let her sub. That is why I like subfinder. Subs that have been up at the school being the kids friends and kissing up to staff hopefully are not subbing. Arghhh, don't get me started on what parents of teens let their kids do. Parents need to wake up and see what they are doing. I have seen such good kids go bad because of lack of parenting.
That's my thing - am I really supposed to sit here all day hoping that something might pop up? I haven't seen anything on subfinder - I'm not even sure that it works. I only really sub for a couple of teachers because, quite frankly, it's more of my way of giving to the school than a job. ?? I understand this takes alot off the front office staff, but it's kinda ridculous on this end.
And, since subs can't access the computers during the day - how do they line up the next days work? Are they just screwed because someone else is sitting at home watching the computer?
Maybe I'm just not getting this.
I agree w/ you 100%. I was told by some people in Cobb that some of the schools only go to subfinder whenever they cannot find a sub. They only use it after they have called their handful of regular subs and they declined.
I have seen horrible things as well that it floors me. And yes they were regular subs.....I have also seen things from teachers that floor me as well. I have always felt that some of the subs SHOULD NOT BE SUBBING due to how they engaged with the kids. I have always treated this as a job, not a social place. I do not want to be these kids friends. I am there to do what the teacher asks of me and maintain control. With that being said, I do get classes that are out of control and it's very hard. I always do my best. I agree with the parent part. I believe you can tell how a sub will be as to how she controls her own kids. If the front office new of the things I saw this sub doing (on and off campus), they would not let her sub. That is why I like subfinder. Subs that have been up at the school being the kids friends and kissing up to staff hopefully are not subbing. Arghhh, don't get me started on what parents of teens let their kids do. Parents need to wake up and see what they are doing. I have seen such good kids go bad because of lack of parenting.
There is a sub that started coming to the school that I have subbed at regularly that is too touchy-feely and gives students that she didn't know before she started subbing there rides home. Her kids attend a different high school and she does not know the kids or their parents at the school where she is so touchy-feely. I have seen her wear the guys letterman and other jackets, etc. I think its just a problem waiting to happen, some parent is going to hear about this and the school and sub may end up in trouble.
From the teacher's end of things, I haven't yet found the option where you can request a particular sub. I have put in some dates for months in advance that I know I will need to be out and I have used it when I had to leave early during planning and did not need a sub. So far, each time there has been some sort of glitch that had to be fixed. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong .
I have to wonder if there are different levels of subfinder and Paulding County is just paying for the basics. Its a good idea it just seems like there should be more to it, like Whatzup said. I think you should be able to do things like change what schools you want to be contacted to sub at by selecting a drop down box with all the schools listed. The teachers should all be able to and know how to request a sub.
I would show up to work with Ebola before letting some folks in my classroom. I feel pretty strongly that I should be able to have the sub I want. I feel very strongly that certain people should not ever be allowed in the building.
When we had bad experiences with subs, we talked to admin and that sub wasn't invited back into the building (if the complaint was legit). I LIKE that kind of authority. Subfinder, as evident by the numerous pcom threads, needs more work.
Each school has the option of allowing teachers to be able to request specific subs. Not all do.
Thanks! I thought I was missing something .
workingforaliving, on 21 August 2011 - 06:33 PM, said:
I would show up to work with Ebola before letting some folks in my classroom. I feel pretty strongly that I should be able to have the sub I want. I feel very strongly that certain people should not ever be allowed in the building.
When we had bad experiences with subs, we talked to admin and that sub wasn't invited back into the building (if the complaint was legit). I LIKE that kind of authority. Subfinder, as evident by the numerous pcom threads, needs more work.
I guess there's bugs to work out, but maybe it will end up being a good thing. There were a lot of problems with the old way, too.
I heard that subs would get a job from the subfinder and it would be on their list of jobs for a few days just so it will be canceled and given to another sub.
I totally get what you are saying about adding schools, but it is not hard to do that at all. All you have to do is contact Central office and talk to the "person in charge of the subs" and tell her you want to add a school You will get it done faster if you email her. It is usually done the same day or the very next depending on what time you contact her.
I understand what you mean about it "doing more" though.
being nosey, on 21 August 2011 - 05:03 PM, said:
I have to wonder if there are different levels of subfinder and Paulding County is just paying for the basics. Its a good idea it just seems like there should be more to it, like Whatzup said. I think you should be able to do things like change what schools you want to be contacted to sub at by selecting a drop down box with all the schools listed. The teachers should all be able to and know how to request a sub.
There is a sub that started coming to the school that I have subbed at regularly that is too touchy-feely and gives students that she didn't know before she started subbing there rides home. Her kids attend a different high school and she does not know the kids or their parents at the school where she is so touchy-feely. I have seen her wear the guys letterman and other jackets, etc. I think its just a problem waiting to happen, some parent is going to hear about this and the school and sub may end up in trouble.
I bet I know who you are talking about. Why would you ever touch a kid......I have a NO TOUCH POLICY...EVEN TO SHAKE HANDS. Yeah, crossing the line BIG TIME! I don't even touch my own kid....Others might not know im his mother.
Lucky64, on 21 August 2011 - 09:53 PM, said:
I heard that subs would get a job from the subfinder and it would be on their list of jobs for a few days just so it will be canceled and given to another sub.
What? So they would hold a job for another sub and then cancel and the other sub would snatch it up...?
I bet I know who you are talking about. Why would you ever touch a kid......I have a NO TOUCH POLICY...EVEN TO SHAKE HANDS. Yeah, crossing the line BIG TIME! I don't even touch my own kid....Others might not know im his mother.
What? So they would hold a job for another sub and then cancel and the other sub would snatch it up...?
How many schools are you listed to sub at? Just curious, my Mother has been subbing for 10 years and everytime she checks the subfinder it always says no jobs available.
Each school has the option of allowing teachers to be able to request specific subs. Not all do.
I have been a sub in Paulding for 3 years. I usually average 3-4 days per week subbing. I have only worked two half days this year! I would equate looking for available jobs on subfinder to playing the lottery. Almost every time I click there are no jobs posted.
I've spent a few years subbing, moved around a bit, and spent a lot of time asking around (school secretaries administrative assistants have a wealth of information) about how SubFinder works and this is what I've learned (keep in mind this isn't direct at any one person here, just some stuff I like to share):
The system doesn't allow more than 1 phone number to be listed because it'd take way to long for the system to call through twice as many numbers. Just put in your best number, and stick to that phone! :-)
Teachers can pre-schedule subs for one or many days in a row. In the case of the sub being out for the week, its possible he/she didn't know how long he/she would be out, so it was a day-by-day thing. (jury duty?) Of the teachers I know, they absolutely would rather have one sub for extended absences, so I figure that must have been a fluke.
Most schools and some teachers have preference lists. A school can choose who their "top 10" is, so to speak, and a specific teacher can do the same. Likewise, a school or teacher can put you on the "do-not-call" list.
Some school secretaries/assistants will have a "sticky note" list. This is like the "top 10" on steroids. They'll lists and call subs they can trust and teachers like ahead of placing the job on SubFinder.
Not all subs see all jobs. Some districts even have a A, B, and C list. (for example, the "A-list" can see jobs way out in advance, the B list can see the jobs which are closer and the C list will see jobs the morning of or the night before).
Not all subs see all jobs... again... you may only be allowed to see jobs for certain schools. I know a sub who had a "bad day" at a school site once and now she's on school's no-fly list.
Yes, a teacher can request a specific sub (they need the sub's ID), however, the requested sub has to call or go online to SubFinder to confirm. If the requested sub doesn't confirm within a certain time frame, the job goes out for the general sub list.
There's likely HUNDREDS of subs trying to get the same jobs you are. Just like any other type of job, you gotta put in some legwork. If you notice you're getting fewer calls, or seeing fewer jobs online, you may want to figure out why. I fill out 3-4 days a week just from referrals! The other 1-2 days a week are picked up from SubFinder thanks to SubAssistant.com. Bottom line: NETWORK! Talk to people, get to know them, be friendly, and be a good sub!! If you just clock in and clock out and get on with your day, you won't make an impression.
When all else fails, I use www.SubAssistant.com to help fill in my schedule. :-)
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