Just to set the record straight, yes, HIram did bring down a player for the championship game. but that young man is a freshman. Since when can a freshman not play JV?
Don't think so, it was more like 4 players. And I wouldnt care if it was 1/2 a player. If they didnt play in any of the other games the whole season, they shouldnt be allowed to play in the championship game. And I do know they asked other players, but they said no, somebody had some integrity on that Hiram team.
Don't let it to you Mel. His hard work can't be undone by words and jealousy. Congrats to him.
Thanks. He has read this thread. My son is not a quitter and has worked his butt off these past few months to get to where he is. He actually had a few different colleges interested in him, and after visiting the campus of KSU he really loved it and that is where he choose to go. Absolutely loved the head coach and I believe he will do well there.
Thanks. He has read this thread. My son is not a quitter and has worked his butt off these past few months to get to where he is. He actually had a few different colleges interested in him, and after visiting the campus of KSU he really loved it and that is where he choose to go. Absolutely loved the head coach and I believe he will do well there.
Congratulations to your son, I wish him much success!!
Hope he does well there. But, let's get a few things straight. There are no full scholarships for BASEBALL at any college. He is going to Kentucky State, which I am sure is fine school. It is also a minority school, so he would be eligible for a minority scholarship there as well as academic. Minority schools are hurting for baseball players, so that would make it much easier to make a team at one of those type schools. Now you have accused East Paulding coaches of many things on here. They did nothing but cut your son, as have many sons been cut by many high schools. You have bitterness because it was your son, and I guess you have a right to. But, slinging mud, as I have done, doesn't make anything right now, does it? EP has an outstanding program with a great head coach. Being in a great program demands a lot as a player. I am sure none of the players there would give that up for anything. I bet if your son had made their team, you would not be on here down-grading them.
Hope he does well there. But, let's get a few things straight. There are no full scholarships for BASEBALL at any college. He is going to Kentucky State, which I am sure is fine school. It is also a minority school, so he would be eligible for a minority scholarship there as well as academic. Minority schools are hurting for baseball players, so that would make it much easier to make a team at one of those type schools. Now you have accused East Paulding coaches of many things on here. They did nothing but cut your son, as have many sons been cut by many high schools. You have bitterness because it was your son, and I guess you have a right to. But, slinging mud, as I have done, doesn't make anything right now, does it? EP has an outstanding program with a great head coach. Being in a great program demands a lot as a player. I am sure none of the players there would give that up for anything. I bet if your son had made their team, you would not be on here down-grading them.
Never said it was a full athletic scholarship. Actually he received both an athletic and academic scholarship- no minority. I am not paying a dime and he is not going in debt while getting an education (which the education part is my #1 goal). Getting to pitch is just an added bonus. My grip with the head coach is he makes summer ball MANDATORY. That was the reason he gave him for not making the team. Not that he wasn't good enough. Playing somewhere else in the summer is what got him to where he is now. Not fundraising summer high school ball.
This post has been edited by melnsid: 16 May 2011 - 08:09 PM
All the players for Hiram played in other games. The other freshman was out of town and that is why he missed the game. You need to get your information from someone who really knows the whole story.
Never said it was a full athletic scholarship. Actually he received both an athletic and academic scholarship- no minority. I am not paying a dime and he is not going in debt while getting an education (which the education part is my #1 goal). Getting to pitch is just an added bonus. My grip with the head coach is he makes summer ball MANDATORY. That was the reason he gave him for not making the team. Not that he wasn't good enough. Playing somewhere else in the summer is what got him to where he is now. Not fundraising summer high school ball.
I think this is what the poster was talking about from the other thread......
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I am so proud of my son who did not give up after injuries and the disappointment of not making the high school baseball team all 4 years. He has now fully committed to play college baseball out of state on a full scholarship! We are so excited for him and can't wait for him to start his next chapter in life.
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I think this is what the poster was talking about from the other thread......
Full scholarship for baseball is around 30-40 percent. So yes he received a full baseball scholarship along with an academic scholarship (which means a hell of a lot more then the baseball part and I ain't paying a penny for atleast the first year of school).
All the players for Hiram played in other games. The other freshman was out of town and that is why he missed the game. You need to get your information from someone who really knows the whole story.
I do have my information correct, the players that played in the championship game, pitcher, cathcer, right fielder, and center fielder are not on the JV team, they were brought down to play in the championship game. I know these players did not play in the first game that South and Hiram play. And please tell me how many games they won in the regular season? Yeah exactly, and they win the championship game? Yeah, with some help from their Varsity. But if that's how Hiram has to win, then go for it. I just know I wouldnt enjoy a victory like that!!!
whattheheck, on 16 May 2011 - 05:58 PM, said:
Hope he does well there. But, let's get a few things straight. There are no full scholarships for BASEBALL at any college. He is going to Kentucky State, which I am sure is fine school. It is also a minority school, so he would be eligible for a minority scholarship there as well as academic. Minority schools are hurting for baseball players, so that would make it much easier to make a team at one of those type schools. Now you have accused East Paulding coaches of many things on here. They did nothing but cut your son, as have many sons been cut by many high schools. You have bitterness because it was your son, and I guess you have a right to. But, slinging mud, as I have done, doesn't make anything right now, does it? EP has an outstanding program with a great head coach. Being in a great program demands a lot as a player. I am sure none of the players there would give that up for anything. I bet if your son had made their team, you would not be on here down-grading them.
Holy smokes seems like some people just can't stand that a child accomplished something great and has to find something wrong with the situation.
Congrats to your boy Melnsid. I wish him all the success in the world.
Now, my nephew plays for East Paulding and I can assure you that most of those boys on the team do no like the coaches. This is coming from my nephew not me. To be belittled after games for losing is not acceptable. To be told if you strike out looking you will run 10 foul poles is ridiculous. It is no wonder why there were so many strikeouts- those boys did not want to run.
Having a full practice after losing to North including hitting balls so hard to the players and injuring a few. Awesome coaching in my book.
Another thing to note, is yes summer ball is a huge part of their fundraising. If you don't play on the summer team, you haven't full-filled your fundraising requirements. Summer ball is about nothing more then raising money and working on the fields. Many instances where boys didn't sell the required amount and were given foul poles to run because of it.
Full scholarship for baseball is around 30-40 percent. So yes he received a full baseball scholarship along with an academic scholarship (which means a hell of a lot more then the baseball part and I ain't paying a penny for atleast the first year of school).
You know I understand that. Good for him and yourself.
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Ok, I have been holding off on my thoughts, but I suppose it's time to chime in. First, let me congratulate South. My son played feeder this year, and the talent coming up for South is great, so they are in good shape for the next few years!
Mel, congrats to your son! Great accomplishment! Sorry people have an issue with him making something out of his life.
Now, on to East. My son played on East's 8th grade feeder team this year, and was selected to play on the JV summer ball team! Now, some have said that summer ball is just a fundraiser. I have to disagree. Out of 15 kids on the feeder team, only a few were selected to play summer ball. Now if it was "just a fundraiser", why wouldn't everyone be invited? There is a fee to play, which is a smaller fee than we have payed the past 5 years for him to play all-stars. There are tournaments EVERY weekend for the entire month of June. I'm pretty sure there are entry fees for these. Will my son get playing time? I don't know yet.. I sure hope so. But this isn't about playing time for him. It's about having an experience, getting better, and getting noticed by the coaches. He is very talented, but more than that, he works hard and hustles 100%. I will NEVER tell him he only made the summer team for Daddy's money. That's BS and I'll defend that all day!
Now, for running poles for striking out looking. Am I the only one that doesn't have a problem with this? I have been coaching for years, and have preached from day one, swing at anything close when you have 2 strikes.. These boys are old enough to know what the strike zone is. I understand that you may get fooled by a curve ball, or it may have been a bit outside.. You still have to put a bat on the ball with 2 strikes if it is remotely close. Now 10 foul poles may be a bit much, but I do not question a coach's rule. All I know is if my boy goes down looking.. he's running, no if's and's or but's.
Ok, I have been holding off on my thoughts, but I suppose it's time to chime in. First, let me congratulate South. My son played feeder this year, and the talent coming up for South is great, so they are in good shape for the next few years!
Mel, congrats to your son! Great accomplishment! Sorry people have an issue with him making something out of his life.
Now, on to East. My son played on East's 8th grade feeder team this year, and was selected to play on the JV summer ball team! Now, some have said that summer ball is just a fundraiser. I have to disagree. Out of 15 kids on the feeder team, only a few were selected to play summer ball. Now if it was "just a fundraiser", why wouldn't everyone be invited? There is a fee to play, which is a smaller fee than we have payed the past 5 years for him to play all-stars. There are tournaments EVERY weekend for the entire month of June. I'm pretty sure there are entry fees for these. Will my son get playing time? I don't know yet.. I sure hope so. But this isn't about playing time for him. It's about having an experience, getting better, and getting noticed by the coaches. He is very talented, but more than that, he works hard and hustles 100%. I will NEVER tell him he only made the summer team for Daddy's money. That's BS and I'll defend that all day!
Now, for running poles for striking out looking. Am I the only one that doesn't have a problem with this? I have been coaching for years, and have preached from day one, swing at anything close when you have 2 strikes.. These boys are old enough to know what the strike zone is. I understand that you may get fooled by a curve ball, or it may have been a bit outside.. You still have to put a bat on the ball with 2 strikes if it is remotely close. Now 10 foul poles may be a bit much, but I do not question a coach's rule. All I know is if my boy goes down looking.. he's running, no if's and's or but's.
Sorry for the long post..
I am always one to say the punishment should fit the crime. I don't agree with the pole running for strikeouts looking but that's a coaches rule and so be it. If it were me, create something that will help them develop better as a hitter. Just saying.......the flip side to that theory: Look how upset the coach will be if they start swinging at pitches outside the strike zone just so they won't have to run poles. You also put your own stipulations on the third strike "get fooled by a curve ball, or a bit outside" that you will understand but it is still a strikeout. If you are going to pick a side, then stick with it 100%. I can't imagine a kid making excellent contact on two fast balls and hitting them foul and then get fooled on a great inside curve ball and the only thing he is worried about is "10 poles". I don't want my son thinking about that at the plate when he has 2 strikes on him. Think about it.
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Great points! But, maybe there are other stipulations.. I don't know yet, and unless I am wrong, it seems the people most upset with it haven't played on the team..
Great points! But, maybe there are other stipulations.. I don't know yet, and unless I am wrong, it seems the people most upset with it haven't played on the team..
true too.
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Type of school refers to a type of school. You have ivy league schools,tech schools, private schools, public schools, and many others. KSU on here is a minority school. Can be more politically correct if you desire.
This post has been edited by whattheheck: 17 May 2011 - 11:17 AM
What is wrong with having an incentive? They come both good and bad. Make the play or get the hit that wins a game, some give "game balls". Strike out looking, you run 10 poles. Nothing wrong with either. I would think their kids know the value of a 2-strike approach at the plate. Sprayberry used to jerk a kid out of the game for striking out looking and he most likely didn't play again for several games. Guess that would be better than 10 poles after the game? Or you could do nothing for striking out looking and have 5-6 of those a night. Bet you wouldn't win a lot of games that way. I would think more games are won due to 2-strike hits or putting the ball in play with 2 strikes than are lost. But, moms around the county know better than coaches who have coached baseball for 15, 20, or 30 years.
What is wrong with having an incentive? They come both good and bad. Make the play or get the hit that wins a game, some give "game balls". Strike out looking, you run 10 poles. Nothing wrong with either. I would think their kids know the value of a 2-strike approach at the plate. Sprayberry used to jerk a kid out of the game for striking out looking and he most likely didn't play again for several games. Guess that would be better than 10 poles after the game? Or you could do nothing for striking out looking and have 5-6 of those a night. Bet you wouldn't win a lot of games that way. I would think more games are won due to 2-strike hits or putting the ball in play with 2 strikes than are lost. But, moms around the county know better than coaches who have coached baseball for 15, 20, or 30 years.
Who do you think you are?
This post has been edited by Blazing Saddles: 17 May 2011 - 11:32 AM
I don't believe anything someone else has written, or said. I don't even believe everything I see if there is any possibility that an allusion could exist.
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Type of school refers to a type of school. You have ivy league schools,tech schools, private schools, public schools, and many others. KSU on here is a minority school. Can be more politically correct if you desire.
The ratio is about 55-45. So you are basically saying that since it is a minority school it is 1) not a great school and 2) isn't hard to make the team.
As far as striking out looking and having to run is stupid. Every kid that comes up to bat has that in the back of his mind while at the plate. I bet there were a lot of strikeouts on pitches that were probably balls too.
What would be the fun in that? And how can someone heckle others, such as coaches, and not expect to be heckled back, especially when not fully disclosing all the details?
This has gone a little too far.. can't you just agree to disagree and move on?
This is pcom baby..........you know that isn't going to happen.
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The ratio is about 55-45. So you are basically saying that since it is a minority school it is 1) not a great school and 2) isn't hard to make the team.
As far as striking out looking and having to run is stupid. Every kid that comes up to bat has that in the back of his mind while at the plate. I bet there were a lot of strikeouts on pitches that were probably balls too.
More like 10-1 according to their website, but that's just numbers......
More like 10-1 according to their website, but that's just numbers......
Yeah ok- whatever you say. I guess since my son is white, the only way for it to be a great accomplishment in receiving a baseball scholarship is if he were to attend a white school? What has your son received?
whattheheck, on 17 May 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:
What would be the fun in that? And how can someone heckle others, such as coaches, and not expect to be heckled back, especially when not fully disclosing all the details?
RR- u funny with all these lil animations...
AND this is beating a dead horse.
A really good kid-friendly principle of a local school made a deal with the parents:
"You can believe half of what your kid says happens here at school and I will believe half of what the kid says happens at home".
No offense or targeting anyone... but sometimes these kids play us parents like flutes. Whether on purpose or not.They know exactly what to say to get the parents dander up. They want you to feel like the kid has been done wrong by SOMEONE... Coach, Teacher, other parents, other kids... etc. The kids learn real quick if they do not get what they want, they can turn some of these parents into their defender. A good thing for parents to be, but... pick the battles and try to understand this.
Making a team is the opinion of the Head Coach and his staff. Any Coach will weigh the baggage against the talent to decide if the kid will help them win games. If the Chemistry will be good, etc. My point is it is their opionion. agree or not doesn't matter. It is up to them. Whatever they feel will bond the team, all the workouts, running polls, fundraising or doing hand stands at home plate everyday... is up to that Coach and his staff. Jesus doesn't Coach in Paulding County. So it may seem imperfect.... OK.
On the other hand, if the opinion goes against you and you keep trying and never give up. Congraulations! That expierence probably help you grow up and become a better, hard working person.
Airing negitive things about any program coming from families that didn't make the team is pretty common. Blame the Coach or Teacher if it makes you feel better... but it will always look like sour grapes to everyone else. Sorry.
11 years ago, a previous high school baseball coach told me himself "he was an A$$ to everyone, because it was better than having parents feel comfortable rippin him a new one after he cut their kid", because they all wanted too. self preservation.
So my point is two sides to all stories, and sometimes more than 2. When you only listen to one side... well, everyone should agree it is not the whole story
Go ahead and try to rip me to shreds... to late Im already in too small of pieces to be ripped anymore.
Congraulation South Paudling Spartan on a good season. The hope is some Paulding team(s) will be in the state playoffs EVERY YEAR and we will get behind who every it is. (UNless we playing each other lol, then we want ALL OF THEM to do good... just not quit as good as EAst. LOL)
The kids do, us ADULTS (?) could learn a thing or two from them.
Go ahead and try to rip me to shreds... to late Im already in too small of pieces to be ripped anymore.
RR- u funny with all these lil animations...
AND this is beating a dead horse.
A really good kid-friendly principle of a local school made a deal with the parents:
"You can believe half of what your kid says happens here at school and I will believe half of what the kid says happens at home".
No offense or targeting anyone... but sometimes these kids play us parents like flutes. Whether on purpose or not.They know exactly what to say to get the parents dander up. They want you to feel like the kid has been done wrong by SOMEONE... Coach, Teacher, other parents, other kids... etc. The kids learn real quick if they do not get what they want, they can turn some of these parents into their defender. A good thing for parents to be, but... pick the battles and try to understand this.
Making a team is the opinion of the Head Coach and his staff. Any Coach will weigh the baggage against the talent to decide if the kid will help them win games. If the Chemistry will be good, etc. My point is it is their opionion. agree or not doesn't matter. It is up to them. Whatever they feel will bond the team, all the workouts, running polls, fundraising or doing hand stands at home plate everyday... is up to that Coach and his staff. Jesus doesn't Coach in Paulding County. So it may seem imperfect.... OK.
On the other hand, if the opinion goes against you and you keep trying and never give up. Congraulations! That expierence probably help you grow up and become a better, hard working person.
Airing negitive things about any program coming from families that didn't make the team is pretty common. Blame the Coach or Teacher if it makes you feel better... but it will always look like sour grapes to everyone else. Sorry.
11 years ago, a previous high school baseball coach told me himself "he was an A$$ to everyone, because it was better than having parents feel comfortable rippin him a new one after he cut their kid", because they all wanted too. self preservation.
So my point is two sides to all stories, and sometimes more than 2. When you only listen to one side... well, everyone should agree it is not the whole story
Actually Mr. Boyd told both my son and I the sole reason for the not making the team last year was because he failed to play summer ball. Last year, my son asked him what he needed to improve on for next year. Mr. Boyd's response. "Really nothing, other then you should have played on the summer team." Had he given him some other reasons and maybe somethings to improve upon, there would be no hard feelings. But to say summer ball isn't mandatory but cut him for not playing is a bunch of bull. When speaking to both Boyd and the athletic director about this situation (about summer ball being mandatory is against GHSA rules) hear is the response I got. "We don't have to go by their rules."
My kid doesn't tell me what I want to hear and I sure as hell don't sugar coat anything I tell him. Facts are facts.
To Whattheheck...I sure hope you teach your kids that whether white, black, red or blue, all people are the same. You come off as applying that minority schools are not great schools and that a white person should be ashamed for going to one.
I am in shock that one can come on here and state someone is lying about receiving a scholarship, they basically prove it, and you can't say anything but negative remarks.
You all can sit and say people are bitter about there boys getting cut from the team but obviously you were not present when Boyd made comments directly to the ones being cut. As with the other poster, Boyd made the same comments. Had nothing to do with talent but whether or not they "fundraised" by playing on the team in the summer months.
Congraulation South Paudling Spartan on a good season. The hope is some Paulding team(s) will be in the state playoffs EVERY YEAR and we will get behind who every it is. (UNless we playing each other lol, then we want ALL OF THEM to do good... just not quit as good as EAst. LOL)
The kids do, us ADULTS (?) could learn a thing or two from them.
This doesn't really relate to your post BUT--Do you think a coach wants kids to play summer ball for money--or maybe to see how they play in more than a few days of tryouts?
And you already know this but I'm for your kid--and a few others--no matter where they are playing.
No you do not have your information correct. All the players you mentioned played in the earlier game except the pitcher. The freshman pitcher did not because he was playing varsity that night. I can give you game stats from the first game you played Hiram or you could check you own scorers book. All players that played in the championship game played games for JV through out the season.
No you do not have your information correct. All the players you mentioned played in the earlier game except the pitcher. The freshman pitcher did not because he was playing varsity that night. I can give you game stats from the first game you played Hiram or you could check you own scorers book. All players that played in the championship game played games for JV through out the season.
Look they played in the county playoff games NOT during the whole season. I know other players were asked to play in the Championship game, and they said NO. Hiram Varsity didnt have a game that day. And you never did say how many games Hiram JV won the whole season. Yeah, exactly. But congratulations on that win!!!
Believe it or not Im gonna hyjack this tread again.
Summer ball for some of the HS baseball teams is not only the biggest and only dependable fundraiser, it is a time when players, (and parents) work their butts off to provide the funds needed to continue the program. ALL players have done this. Most players do this every year.
It is also a time when the Coaches can learn who is a team player and who is NOT. If a player and parents do not think they need to work for the program they probably won't be the kind of player who can fit in and help win games. If Coach let some players and families never help with summer ball.... it would be hard to get anyone to do it. It is a month of working from dawn to dusk.
At East this past year alone we had over $15000 in repairs NEEDED to continue to play on the field and use the facility. We have a wonderful in door batting facility that has to be paid for. ALL the players use this facility. They all have taken part in paying for it. It is part of the deal if you want to be a part of this program.
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Folks who think they will be a part of this process and only want to play baseball and NOT HELP DO THE WORK TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM RUN will not and SHOULD NOT make the team. That, In my humble opionion, is what is ment by saying "someone should have played summer ball if you want to be an EAst Paulding Raider".
It is a bonding time for the kids and the parents. There is some fun to be had,.... but it is mainly work work work. No prima donnas. just work.
Go ahead and try to rip me to shreds... to late Im already in too small of pieces to be ripped anymore.
Actually Mr. Boyd told both my son and I the sole reason for the not making the team last year was because he failed to play summer ball. Last year, my son asked him what he needed to improve on for next year. Mr. Boyd's response. "Really nothing, other then you should have played on the summer team." Had he given him some other reasons and maybe somethings to improve upon, there would be no hard feelings. But to say summer ball isn't mandatory but cut him for not playing is a bunch of bull. When speaking to both Boyd and the athletic director about this situation (about summer ball being mandatory is against GHSA rules) hear is the response I got. "We don't have to go by their rules."
My kid doesn't tell me what I want to hear and I sure as hell don't sugar coat anything I tell him. Facts are facts.
Your facts are twisted and wrong. I would bet he told your boy that if he played summer it might have helped him make the team. Not that he would have made the team if played summer ball. No high school coach in Georgia would say that. You say he is a pitcher only? What was his gun times during tryouts? Can he throw harder than 80? 85? It is hard for "pitcher onlys" to occupy roster spots on any team. I don't know of many pitcher-only players on any team in Paulding. Should be a little easier to do that on a college team though. Best of luck to him.
To Whattheheck...I sure hope you teach your kids that whether white, black, red or blue, all people are the same. You come off as applying that minority schools are not great schools and that a white person should be ashamed for going to one.
I am in shock that one can come on here and state someone is lying about receiving a scholarship, they basically prove it, and you can't say anything but negative remarks.
You all can sit and say people are bitter about there boys getting cut from the team but obviously you were not present when Boyd made comments directly to the ones being cut. As with the other poster, Boyd made the same comments. Had nothing to do with talent but whether or not they "fundraised" by playing on the team in the summer months.
1. I will believe the baseball scholly when I see a press release on it or read about it at the EPHS awards Day.
2. I will bet a lot of money Boyd never told your kid or any other kid that they were cut because they did not play summer or fund raise. That is a bunch of bull by "whiney, my kid is the greatest and how dare you" parents. If you have 2 kids on bubble of making the team and have to pick one....equal ability.....are you going to pick the one that has been to every fundraiser, workout, practice, etc.....or the one who shows up just for tryouts? Easy answer on that one.
This post has been edited by whattheheck: 18 May 2011 - 10:51 AM
Believe it or not Im gonna hyjack this tread again.
Summer ball for some of the HS baseball teams is not only the biggest and only dependable fundraiser, it is a time when players, (and parents) work their butts off to provide the funds needed to continue the program. ALL players have done this. Most players do this every year.
It is also a time when the Coaches can learn who is a team player and who is NOT. If a player and parents do not think they need to work for the program they probably won't be the kind of player who can fit in and help win games. If Coach let some players and families never help with summer ball.... it would be hard to get anyone to do it. It is a month of working from dawn to dusk.
At East this past year alone we had over $15000 in repairs NEEDED to continue to play on the field and use the facility. We have a wonderful in door batting facility that has to be paid for. ALL the players use this facility. They all have taken part in paying for it. It is part of the deal if you want to be a part of this program.
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Folks who think they will be a part of this process and only want to play baseball and NOT HELP DO THE WORK TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM RUN will not and SHOULD NOT make the team. That, In my humble opionion, is what is ment by saying "someone should have played summer ball if you want to be an EAst Paulding Raider".
It is a bonding time for the kids and the parents. There is some fun to be had,.... but it is mainly work work work. No prima donnas. just work.
Whew.....do I ever, ever agree with your statements! No room for prima donna players or parents in high school baseball - at least that was my experience when my son played at East Paulding High School for 4 years. The boys (and their parents) had a wonderful role model and example of a coach when my son played at EPHS under Ronnie Green (who unfortunately passed away suddenly a few years ago).
So many wonderful memories, blood, sweat and tears. The regular season games were great and the summer league ballgames were some of the best - a Dizzy Dean World Series High School League Championship in Mississippi that the kids (and parents) will never forget, a trip to McKinney, Texas to play in the Mickey Mantle High School League World Series, several trips to Florida, etc - great times!
Under Coach Green and his assistant coaches, these kids learned so much about personal responsibility, class, dignity, hard work and attitude. We as parents also understood that we had duties and responsibilities within the EPHS baseball program and took those responsibilities very seriously for the sake of not only our children involved, but also for the baseball program as well as the school in general. We spent lots and lots of time at the ballfield in the spring and summer working our tails off but I wouldn't trade a minute of it. It was certainly a team effort, not just on the part of the players, but also the coaching staff, administration, and the parents. I have been around baseball all my life as my husband has also after playing in high school and college, and we have learned over the years that not one single player can do it by himself, it takes a TEAM.
Actually Mr. Boyd told both my son and I the sole reason for the not making the team last year was because he failed to play summer ball. Last year, my son asked him what he needed to improve on for next year. Mr. Boyd's response. "Really nothing, other then you should have played on the summer team." Had he given him some other reasons and maybe somethings to improve upon, there would be no hard feelings. But to say summer ball isn't mandatory but cut him for not playing is a bunch of bull. When speaking to both Boyd and the athletic director about this situation (about summer ball being mandatory is against GHSA rules) hear is the response I got. "We don't have to go by their rules."
My kid doesn't tell me what I want to hear and I sure as hell don't sugar coat anything I tell him. Facts are facts.
This must just be an East Paulding thing, I know lots of players on teams throughout the county who Do NOT play summer ball with the schools they attend, they play with other teams ex. East Cobb, where they think they will get "seen" more. And they still played spring ball with the school's team.
Your facts are twisted and wrong. I would bet he told your boy that if he played summer it might have helped him make the team. Not that he would have made the team if played summer ball. No high school coach in Georgia would say that. You say he is a pitcher only? What was his gun times during tryouts? Can he throw harder than 80? 85? It is hard for "pitcher onlys" to occupy roster spots on any team. I don't know of many pitcher-only players on any team in Paulding. Should be a little easier to do that on a college team though. Best of luck to him.
I know quite a few Pitchers Only on teams in the county.
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