[PUBBY]

Actually, the votes are cumulative and are displayed on your profile (green box just down from the top) ... at least for the admin view.

I set the ratings visible on a per post basis and I assume the rating points are otherwise visible in cumulative numbers in your profile.

One option available is to set the ratings invisible.

pubby

[eym_sirius]

I'm not sure that I agree with you, Pubby. I think that a rating system will not encourage "good posts", but rather discourage thought-filled ones. We already have emoticons that people use instead of putting their thoughts into actual words. Now, people won't even bother with the emoticons - They'll just rate others, depending on whether they agree or disagree with them.<br><br>I think that the notion that using this system to encourage "good posts" is a specious&nbsp; one because the critical-thinking skills required for analysis are often viewed as unpopular.&nbsp; Bad posters, or the ones with a very narrow (or singular) agenda can be easily regulated through banishment to protected-forum purgatory. Attempts to escape from purgatory to the general population of -- Internet Cafe -- for instance, leads to banishment to PCOM Hell.<br><br>If you want to get really John Miltonish, you can have several levels of hell before complete and utter permanent Hell.<br>

[kasteroil]

good morning everyone! just can not wait to see what my rating is at the end of today...i have a feeling i will be the first one booted off the island, someone got a life raft?

This post has been edited by kasteroil: 06 November 2009 - 10:24 AM

[NC-17]

PUBBY, on 06 November 2009 - 10:19 AM, said:

Actually, the votes are cumulative and are displayed on your profile (green box just down from the top) ... at least for the admin view.

I set the ratings visible on a per post basis and I assume the rating points are otherwise visible in cumulative numbers in your profile.

One option available is to set the ratings invisible.

pubby

they're displayed in the profile of the individual as well.

setting them invisible....wouldn't that negate the whole process? if no one can see the rating, why have the rating system? your call.

but hey, can you look in to the possibility of a feature that allows the user to click on their rating in their profile, and see which posts they were rated on?
kinda like the mayberry/bullet, click on it and see why it was issued?

[Guard dad]

sadie612, on 06 November 2009 - 09:58 AM, said:

I thought you already had a smelly one to start with

And I've worked hard for it.

[Oh No Its Me]

Pubby why can't we rate you??

[JMT]

Oh No Its Me, on 06 November 2009 - 10:28 AM, said:

Pubby why can't we rate you??

Uh oh.

[NewsJunky]

mrshoward, on 06 November 2009 - 10:18 AM, said:

This is our new theme song...

Bad Reputation - Joan Jett

Love Joan Jett. Make me a Charter Member please! MeWhoElse I hope you make good coffee!

[MeWhoElse]

lmao my reputation is already a negative 6! Come on folks, lets go for 20, I wanna go BIG!!!

[NC-17]

psst...pubs??? at what point does it stop saying neutral? how many plusses or negative do you gotta get to be called, uh, *not* neutral? and what do ya get called once your not neutral anymore?

or does you know yet? i get that you're learning as we go.

[adult.]

JMT, on 06 November 2009 - 10:18 AM, said:

There are people on this board who stopped reading the content of my posts long ago -- they just react viscerally to my name and that's it.

I've gradually conditioned myself to stop projectile vomiting at the sight of your avatar.

[Lady Raider]

I have seen some neg's in some post. I think PT already has -2 LOL

Lawd this will be the devil I tell ya LOL

[I'm Floored]

naturegirl, on 06 November 2009 - 10:13 AM, said:

Me too. I just tried to add to your reputation MrsH but it said, "Action failed. You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day".

Quick, everybody....suck up to somebody else. Naturegirl is no help to us today!!!

[dumbestgirlintheworld]

So what does the rep thing DO?

[NewsJunky]

eym_sirius, on 06 November 2009 - 10:22 AM, said:

I'm not sure that I agree with you, Pubby. I think that a rating system will not encourage "good posts", but rather discourage thought-filled ones. We already have emoticons that people use instead of putting their thoughts into actual words. Now, people won't even bother with the emoticons - They'll just rate others, depending on whether they agree or disagree with them.<br><br>I think that the notion that using this system to encourage "good posts" is a specious&nbsp; one because the critical-thinking skills required for analysis are often viewed as unpopular.&nbsp; Bad posters, or the ones with a very narrow (or singular) agenda can be easily regulated through banishment to protected-forum purgatory. Attempts to escape from purgatory to the general population of -- Internet Cafe -- for instance, leads to banishment to PCOM Hell.<br><br>If you want to get really John Miltonish, you can have several levels of hell before complete and utter permanent Hell.<br>

I don't often agree with you but this is a good post. I think freedom of speech on this board could cease and political correctness could rear it's ugly head. Paying members might just stop visiting if they were made invisible simply because others disagreed with them.

[Lady Raider]

Pubby had a topic on here about the Rep button.

it only goes for a post at time, if someone likes your post then they can give you a plus in your rep.

if someone does not like your post then they can vote - on it

ask NC she is checking it all out LOL

[NC-17]

GEAgirl, on 06 November 2009 - 10:37 AM, said:

So what does the rep thing DO?

it's shaping up to be the pcom version of 'mafia wars'

[Lady Raider]

[NewsJunky]

MeWhoElse, on 06 November 2009 - 10:31 AM, said:

lmao my reputation is already a negative 6! Come on folks, lets go for 20, I wanna go BIG!!!

Well I just gave you a plus because I believe you deserve one. It looks like you are back to 0. You better make good coffee!

[C_Watkins]

Predictably, polarizing posters' points probably pitiful.

[dumbestgirlintheworld]

Lady Raider, on 06 November 2009 - 10:40 AM, said:

Pubby had a topic on here about the Rep button.

it only goes for a post at time, if someone likes your post then they can give you a plus in your rep.

if someone does not like your post then they can vote - on it

ask NC she is checking it all out LOL

I get that part...but what happens? Do you get a bullet if you get too many negative? Do you get a mayberry if you get a bunch of positives? Is there an awards ceremony at the end of the year?

Here's what I see happening, when pcommers get in a pissing match, people are going to be able to say, "You see, So and so made the post go off the cliff because she has the most negative rep points in the thread". It's just going to be used as additional ammunition. The negative points will eventually be worn as a badge of honor...to hide the sadness.

And then there's people like me that would have never even noticed...Can I make my counter look like a fetus? Jus' wonderin'.

[PUBBY]

It is something that came with the new board that we're experimenting with.

I honestly don't know how it will work ...

What I do know is that given the options, we're open about it; second, it tends to work in larger diverse communities (we are) and it does nothing if everyone sets their 'viewing' to show all posts. If you set your viewing to hide posts from those whose reputation scores are -30 or more, you'll have to click on their post to view it.

I'm not 'pushing this down the community's throat anymore than I will engage the 'facebook' integration (another option made possible) because everyone on facebook uses their real names and as such, the 'anonymity' will likely fade.

Considering the number of 'votes' that exists amongst the 3 percent of users who are 'addicts' vs. the 50 percent that are more modest users, the dynamic I see is that the reputation will be set more by those folks and I'm kind of curious how they feel.

I can also see how we could zero everyone out on the number of votes they can give on the negative side (like it was before I made the change last night) and only allow positive votes. There could be 'negative days' and 'positive days' ... and again, this is all an experiment that obviously includes those who are members.

I believe, I set it up so that you can vote for yourself, too!

pubby

PS: The idea is this is the user moderation system. This has nothing to do with the mods, mayberries and bullets and shouldn't ... although if we don't ditch the system, you may be able to cash in mayberries for reputation points.

pubby

[NC-17]

PUBBY, on 06 November 2009 - 10:55 AM, said:

It is something that came with the new board that we're experimenting with.

I honestly don't know how it will work ...

What I do know is that given the options, we're open about it; second, it tends to work in larger diverse communities (we are) and it does nothing if everyone sets their 'viewing' to show all posts. If you set your viewing to hide posts from those whose reputation scores are -30 or more, you'll have to click on their post to view it.

I'm not 'pushing this down the community's throat anymore than I will engage the 'facebook' integration (another option made possible) because everyone on facebook uses their real names and as such, the 'anonymity' will likely fade.

Considering the number of 'votes' that exists amongst the 3 percent of users who are 'addicts' vs. the 50 percent that are more modest users, the dynamic I see is that the reputation will be set more by those folks and I'm kind of curious how they feel.

I can also see how we could zero everyone out on the number of votes they can give on the negative side (like it was before I made the change last night) and only allow positive votes. There could be 'negative days' and 'positive days' ... and again, this is all an experiment that obviously includes those who are members.

I believe, I set it up so that you can vote for yourself, too!

pubby

nope, can't vote for ourselves.

and if you get a hankering to start shovin' stuff down throats..... give me advanced warning.






i wanna be at the head of the line!

[NewsJunky]

NC-17, on 06 November 2009 - 10:40 AM, said:

it's shaping up to be the pcom version of 'mafia wars'

I know which side I will be on.

[Lady Raider]

** cracking up **

[JMT]

NC-17, on 06 November 2009 - 10:58 AM, said:

and if you get a hankering to start shovin' stuff down throats..... give me advanced warning.



i wanna be at the head of the line!

It would be funny indeed if this thread ended up in the Tonk.

[C_Watkins]

PUBBY, on 06 November 2009 - 10:55 AM, said:

it does nothing if everyone sets their 'viewing' to show all posts. If you set your viewing to hide posts from those whose reputation scores are -30 or more, you'll have to click on their post to view it.

I actually like the option, myself. I know there will be many who don't, however.
Leaves it up to the individual, what content they view.


As with any rating system, stars, points, trophies, reputation, confidence, etc...
the vocal ones with strong opinions will usually suffer the wrath of those with equally
vocal and strong, but opposing opinions... and there's lots of vocal, opinionated folk to go around pcom.

I'm interested to see what kind of balance develops, myself, if it's continued for long enough.
(Due to lurkers who never post, but may be perfectly willing to click an anonymous rating button)

[MrsB]

I agree with NC-17 and the others on this. In addition, I think it will scare off new members. I think that as a newbie, some might be afraid to post or join in on thread as it is. I know I was at first b/c I was new and didn't want to tick anyone off to begin with at the very least, but mostly because no one really knew me.

I know I don't have many posts as it is, but I have been here long enough now to know that it will turn into a bad thing for the site, either by deterring new people from the site or making current members leave. (If I am understanding this correctly). Besides, everyone has an opinion, and there will always be someone to disagree no matter what it is.

[NC-17]

C_Watkins, on 06 November 2009 - 11:02 AM, said:

I actually like the option, myself. I know there will be many who don't, however.
Leaves it up to the individual, what content they view.


As with any rating system, stars, points, trophies, reputation, confidence, etc...
the vocal ones with strong opinions will usually suffer the wrath of those with equally
vocal and strong, but opposing opinions... and there's lots of vocal, opinionated folk to go around pcom.

I'm interested to see what kind of balance develops, myself, if it's continued for long enough.
(Due to lurkers who never post, but may be perfectly willing to click an anonymous rating button)

but, but, but.....fix it for me!!!!! i need to be able to click on the rating summary in my profile to see which posts have been rated.

also, my painbrush is brecked. can't change font color to highlight which portion of a post i'm replying to. fix it?

[Papi]

I'd like to play my hidden immunity idol.

[C_Watkins]

NC-17, on 06 November 2009 - 11:06 AM, said:

but, but, but.....fix it for me!!!!! i need to be able to click on the rating summary in my profile to see which posts have been rated.

also, my painbrush is brecked. can't change font color to highlight which portion of a post i'm replying to. fix it?

Works for me? Weird.

[MeWhoElse]

Papi, on 06 November 2009 - 11:10 AM, said:

I'd like to play my hidden immunity idol.

You are safe Papi, step back in line...

[C_Watkins]

Papi, on 06 November 2009 - 11:10 AM, said:

I'd like to play my hidden immunity idol.

+1 for that

[MeWhoElse]

NewsJunky, on 06 November 2009 - 10:31 AM, said:

Love Joan Jett. Make me a Charter Member please! MeWhoElse I hope you make good coffee!

I do, darlin...

[NC-17]

C_Watkins, on 06 November 2009 - 11:12 AM, said:

Works for me? Weird.

dammit. i guess i have to update the browser on the work 'puter too.

[PUBBY]

Here is another idea ...

Maybe we do the post rating for the regular members and opt out the paid members?

I mention that because I suspect it will get spur a little conversation ... and since the paid members seem to be among those most concerned ... such an approach could mitigate in their opinion. You know it now becomes a 'not in their back yard' as opposed to not in my back yard.

pubby

Again, this is an experiment, let me know what's going on.

[NC-17]

as long as we can still opt in, as paid members.

[Lady Raider]

This Rep thing may make me turn the political forum back on and go to clicking

[MeWhoElse]

Lady Raider, on 06 November 2009 - 11:39 AM, said:

This Rep thing may make me turn the political forum back on and go to clicking

No joke!

[PraiseThee]

mrshoward, on 06 November 2009 - 06:40 AM, said:

Nah, that would never happen on P.com...

It already has occurred and in less than 5 days.