Paulding Recreation Softball Could it be better
#1
Posted 29 September 2008 - 10:34 AM
#2
Posted 29 September 2008 - 10:37 AM
#3
Posted 29 September 2008 - 10:43 AM
I know there are children who just want to have fun, but there are girls who want to compete. Paulding does not offer that. The rec dept is only about having fun, there are lots of girls who want more.
#4
Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:02 PM
#5
Posted 29 September 2008 - 01:49 PM
Now if you are complaining about PC softball, in the spring, not having a competetive level, that is different. And again not the PCPRD responsibility but yours and other like minded parents and coaches that need to band together and come up with a system that works. Much like baseball has done. PCBAB is having problems losing kids to other counties as well. So truly a hard task you will be undertaking.. but you will be up to it i am sure!
#6
Posted 29 September 2008 - 01:54 PM
#7
Posted 29 September 2008 - 02:32 PM
Now if you are complaining about PC softball, in the spring, not having a competitive level, that is different. And again not the PCPRD responsibility but yours and other like minded parents and coaches that need to band together and come up with a system that works. Much like baseball has done. PCBAB is having problems losing kids to other counties as well. So truly a hard task you will be undertaking.. but you will be up to it i am sure!
I realize that fall ball is not as competitive, but lets face it the program as a whole needs drastic improvement. I know for a fact parents have pushed for changes and nothing ever happens. It is not important to the man in charge.
It would be great to hold competitive tourneys in paulding, it would be a great way to make park improvements like batting cages, there are girls who want to compete but don't have the opportunity.
#8
Posted 29 September 2008 - 02:46 PM
#9
Posted 29 September 2008 - 08:08 PM
As coaches, it's our job to teach these children so that they have the same opportunity to play sports at a school level, as traveling ball players do. Instead, we are not educating our coaches properly and in return, they are not "teaching" our children. Sports are suppose to be fun, but they also are suppose to teach sportsmanship, team work, and how to properly play a sport. Not all parents can afford to put their child in a traveling sport. Which is unfortunate since our county programs are not adequate to educate these players, so that they get the same opportunity AND coaching that a traveling ball player would get.
#11
Posted 29 September 2008 - 09:08 PM
#12
Posted 29 September 2008 - 10:25 PM
I am not saying that PCPRD cant help.. but why are you relying on them?
Get your stuff together!!! Form an organization!!! Hold some meetings!!! Talk with some of the local youth organizations about hosting softball. Quit complaining and DO SOMETHING... You are the reason that PC softball sux. Not PCPRD. YOU... DO SOMETHING!!!
And if you are.... You are a better person than me!!
And if you arent? Then you reap what you sow... and that is NOTHING!
#13
Posted 30 September 2008 - 05:55 AM
The complaints won. The PCPRD board put together a program and sold it to the masses. Each of the community owned/operated parks agreed to let the softball program go and allow the county to take it over (be prepared, they have a similar bid for baseball!!!). It was the worst mistake. I am not saying that the intention from the start was to spoil softball, but it is very hard for an organization with so many irons in the fire to take on girls softball. Then you throw in the fastpitch/slowpitch issue.
It is very possible for individual parks to take back softball. I just don't know where you'd put them. Most of the parks are full with baseball players and the mounds are built, etc. Some parks have travel softball teams and that is a great way to go...of course, it is competative and some parents aren't ready for that.
Don't get mad at the rec department (I think their intentions are good). And I doubt Mr. Shearin made out the practice schedule so I think you can leave him out of THIS argument, too. Get involved with your local park and try to put something together.
#14
Posted 30 September 2008 - 06:57 AM
#15
Posted 30 September 2008 - 07:17 AM
Jerry is not the man in charge I was referring to.
#16
Posted 30 September 2008 - 07:19 AM
The other sad thing is the two people that are responsible for managing the programs are not interested in making them better. We as tax payers have the ability to voice our displeasure about the public officials that we pay their salaries. I think the county spoke loud and clear this past election. Now what has to happen when the new administration takes office is to make sure they know how you feel about our rec department. I think the new administration will be all ears to what their constituents have to say.
#17
Posted 30 September 2008 - 08:32 AM
The worst thing that could have happened was when the county took back over girls softball! Why? Because the parks are more worried about there "MENS" league than they are the "GIRLS" league! We have a great softball program in this county...the only problem is, it's for men! We only get to have the fields one day a week for practice, because the men's league has them the rest of the time.
What are the two strongest sports in Paulding County? FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL!!! Why? Because they are ran at individual parks, by local board members that care about what's going on within that organization and not by "PAID" representatives that are running a dictatorship!
And why don't we have traveling ball in this county? Well I'll tell you...the county won't give up their fields for an "OUTSIDE" organization to practice! And we say it's all about the girls! This county is ran by ONE MAN and we need to look at replacing him before things will change or (my suggestion) get it back into the local private ran parks in the county!
#18
Posted 30 September 2008 - 08:44 PM
#19
Posted 30 September 2008 - 08:46 PM
Been that way for years!
Georgia is always on my mind......Dawg Fan, Falcons on Sundays and Hawks on the nights they play and I can't leave out the Braves.......love them all EXCEPT Tech...lol
#20
Posted 30 September 2008 - 09:07 PM
OK, with that said, yes the program is lacking. Our girls are being let down, not having the practices they need to learn basic fundamentals of the game. I see new players coming in, even in the Fall, when its not supposed to be 'competitive', and I know these girls are going to be pushed to the side. The coaches have too little practice time, to be able to really focus on the ones who need the most help. Instead, they concentrate on their 'star' players, and try to push out a winning team. I have never once witnessed a coach, swap players out in positions, so they could LEARN to play. Now this is not directed at the 6U teams, they are still too young to be fixed into a position....but 8U and up, there is very little teaching going on.
There are plenty of travel teams for the more serious players, at the 'rec' level, it should be all about teaching these girls to be better players, and its not.
I will also say though, when softabll was at the individual parks, it wasn't any better. We played at California, and at New Hope....at both of those parks, we were sharing with the baseball teams, and they always got the better game times, better practice schedules, etc. Softball was shafted. And the fees were outrageous, $125+ just to sign up and then they asked for money for uniforms on top of that.
I had high hopes when it was taken over by the parks, it just has not panned out. The fees are lower, thats about the only good thing I can say about it. Heck, my girls have not even gotten visors this season, just the tee shirts, what is up with that?
#21
Posted 30 September 2008 - 09:39 PM
There are plenty of travel teams for the more serious players, at the 'rec' level, it should be all about teaching these girls to be better players, and its not.
I will also say though, when softabll was at the individual parks, it wasn't any better. We played at California, and at New Hope....at both of those parks, we were sharing with the baseball teams, and they always got the better game times, better practice schedules, etc. Softball was shafted. And the fees were outrageous, $125+ just to sign up and then they asked for money for uniforms on top of that.
I had high hopes when it was taken over by the parks, it just has not panned out. The fees are lower, thats about the only good thing I can say about it. Heck, my girls have not even gotten visors this season, just the tee shirts, what is up with that?
SM, I appreciate your thoughts, no they don't get the practice times they need & I know that fall ball is not as competitive. You & I both know what happens out there with coaching, most of them don't have a clue. I agree that they need to learn the fundamentals but what after that. As taxpayers we pay for this program that is going downhill big time, something needs to be done to offer more serious opportunities to compete, maybe they could focus more on the girls programs than the men's softball.
#22
Posted 30 September 2008 - 09:54 PM
I agree there needs to be more focus on the girls, NOT the men.
But, Rec is Rec, I have lived all over the USA and rec is always intermural play, so the kids can learn and grow as players. They then graduate on to middle school, or high school ball, or travel teams. Yes, rec needs to be well run, by people who have the girls best interest in mind. So, how do we go about voting out the ones who don't?
I do have to say, most of our coaches are hard working, dedicated individuals, who really enjoy working with the girls. I will never fault any of them, who are there, trying their best to coach the girls.
Now the ones who don't show up for games and practice, well, thats another story
I will finish by saying, my oldest daughter has been playing ball since she was 3. She will probably never be a travel player, she just is not that competitve. She enjoys rec ball, I enjoy rec ball, I don't want to be a travel mom, lol However, I do want what I pay for, not only in park fees, but through my taxes. And as high as my taxes are, we should have a kick azz rec program.
#23
Posted 01 October 2008 - 02:56 PM
Let a volunteer run the fastpitch program as previously mentioned. I bet it would do well
I agree that most of the coaches are doing their best. Guess what? They are volunteers and doing it because they want to. But their hands are tied with limited resources and no practice time.
How do we express our opinion and make a change?
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#24
Posted 01 October 2008 - 05:22 PM
Let a volunteer run the fastpitch program as previously mentioned. I bet it would do well
I agree that most of the coaches are doing their best. Guess what? They are volunteers and doing it because they want to. But their hands are tied with limited resources and no practice time.
How do we express our opinion and make a change?
#25
Posted 01 October 2008 - 07:05 PM
#26
Posted 01 October 2008 - 08:19 PM
Let a volunteer run the fastpitch program as previously mentioned. I bet it would do well
I agree that most of the coaches are doing their best. Guess what? They are volunteers and doing it because they want to. But their hands are tied with limited resources and no practice time.
How do we express our opinion and make a change?
As a coach now in the s-ball league I can assure he could not care less about girls softball. My girls love softball & I enjoy coaching the kids more than you will ever know! However if you volunteer you are hung out to dry at that point, with no consistency as far as uniforms, umpires sent to the wrong fields no practice times.You would think that fall ball would get a practice once a week (since it is the instructional time after all) but that is not the case.It is getting where I want to take my team to West Cobb as well & that is unfortunate since I live almost in C-ville. I cant believe a county of this size is this unorganized & no one cares!!!How about we start with David Austin?!?!
#27
Posted 01 October 2008 - 09:45 PM
#28
Posted 02 October 2008 - 08:40 AM
Your right, I meant to say could NOT care less
I know people have complained to Michael Justice, the director and nothing has been done.
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#29
Posted 02 October 2008 - 09:04 AM
I know people have complained to Michael Justice, the director and nothing has been done.
it's because he does'nt care
#30
Posted 02 October 2008 - 09:21 AM
We play football, baseball, and cheerleading through New Georgia/South Paulding and they offer a great organization! They also offer girls slowpitch softball in the spring as well. I have spoken to them about expanding their girls softball program to include girls fastpitch...they are very interested in this idea. They are looking for a group of people that would head up this organization and start building it. If anyone is interested in doing this, let me know and I will get us on the agenda for the next board meeting.
Also, for those that might be interested...this park is ran by a great group of CHIRSTIAN LEADERS in our county! They are 100% about kids and family FIRST! They offer a variety of events that no other organization that I have been apart of offers, for instance they have group devotions with players and parents, they have an onsite park chapelin, and more.
Just another example of the kind of LEADERS this park has teaching your children...140LB football team had a player get seriously injured a few weeks ago during the game, as soon as that game was finished our entire team (and parents) got down on their knees and prayed for the healing of this child on the opposing team. I don't know about you, but I've never been involved in any other organization that has done that before!
If you are interested helping give our local Paulding County girls softball players (fastpitch or slowpitch) the same opportunities that the surrounding counties give their residents, PM me and we can talk more about getting started. Also, if you are simply interested in moving your team/organization to their park, I know they would also welcome you in with open arms as well.
#31
Posted 02 October 2008 - 02:51 PM
THINKING AND WORKING TOWARD WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH AND NOT POINTING FINGERS!
GOOD LUCK!!!
#32
Posted 02 October 2008 - 09:53 PM
THINKING AND WORKING TOWARD WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH AND NOT POINTING FINGERS!
GOOD LUCK!!!
I dont think we should have to leave the county rec to have what is needed. We need someone to force Dooley to get out of the way and allow someone else to run the program. Try doing any sport that Dooley is involved in and you will quickly learn you cant accomplish anything because he wont allow it, unless of course your playing on his baseball team. You might even try complaining about him but it will go nowhere. I also agree there should be A and B divisions and lets keep our people and money in Paulding. I wonder if the commissioners has any idea how much money could be brought into Paulding by having a competive league and tournaments, but im sure none of the businesses in Paulding could use any money, just go over to Lost Mt Park any day and see what could be had here in Paulding.
#33
Posted 02 October 2008 - 11:13 PM
Dooley and Justus are basically politicians. They keep the expense numbers down so nobody asks questions and leave them alone. They fail to see the big picture: there is money to be made with our programs and in our parks. Community parks such as Ridge Rd or Ruritan survive on concession sales and bidding for tournaments. Example- Taylor Farm has been out of hot dogs for a week. So they have 3 people working the concession stand to serve $1 drinks and .05 cent bubble gum. You have games/practices starting at dinner time until late in the eve. Perfect opportunity to make money. Softball is the #1 sport for girls/young women in our country and the market is growing every year. D and J can't see past their desks.
This is what really upsets me: 1) Dooley/Justus have my dream job. I would love to take this county parks and rec dept beyond the next level. We are once again one of the fastest growing counties in the country and our residents have to travel to other counties to participate in a decent program. I'm not campaigning I'm just saying they should start doing their jobs because things are only going to get bigger around here. 2) They are cheating our kids. I went to college on an athletic scholarship...my brother went to college on an athletic scholarship. Think it's impossible?....NEVER! You're kid may not play division I but I am here to tell you with some talent and good grades, kids can take that love of a sport and help pay for school. My brother was like Rudy....no athletic talent but heart. He went to a Div III school, got a good education and football paid for about half of it.
I say let's stop thinking small....start a petition, flood D and J with phone calls, call higher and higher up the ladder. One thing I've learned...softball parents are active and energetic....so let's figure this out and do something.! (this is my first post so I hope to hel* I don't get in trouble. I just say what I believe in and I reallllyyy believe in kids!)
#34
Posted 02 October 2008 - 11:49 PM
The worst thing that could have happened was when the county took back over girls softball! Why? Because the parks are more worried about there "MENS" league than they are the "GIRLS" league! We have a great softball program in this county...the only problem is, it's for men! We only get to have the fields one day a week for practice, because the men's league has them the rest of the time.
What are the two strongest sports in Paulding County? FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL!!! Why? Because they are ran at individual parks, by local board members that care about what's going on within that organization and not by "PAID" representatives that are running a dictatorship!
And why don't we have traveling ball in this county? Well I'll tell you...the county won't give up their fields for an "OUTSIDE" organization to practice! And we say it's all about the girls! This county is ran by ONE MAN and we need to look at replacing him before things will change or (my suggestion) get it back into the local private ran parks in the county!
Amen
#35
Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:24 AM
#36
Posted 03 October 2008 - 06:23 AM
Dooley and Justus are basically politicians. They keep the expense numbers down so nobody asks questions and leave them alone. They fail to see the big picture: there is money to be made with our programs and in our parks. Community parks such as Ridge Rd or Ruritan survive on concession sales and bidding for tournaments. Example- Taylor Farm has been out of hot dogs for a week. So they have 3 people working the concession stand to serve $1 drinks and .05 cent bubble gum. You have games/practices starting at dinner time until late in the eve. Perfect opportunity to make money. Softball is the #1 sport for girls/young women in our country and the market is growing every year. D and J can't see past their desks.
This is what really upsets me: 1) Dooley/Justus have my dream job. I would love to take this county parks and rec dept beyond the next level. We are once again one of the fastest growing counties in the country and our residents have to travel to other counties to participate in a decent program. I'm not campaigning I'm just saying they should start doing their jobs because things are only going to get bigger around here. 2) They are cheating our kids. I went to college on an athletic scholarship...my brother went to college on an athletic scholarship. Think it's impossible?....NEVER! You're kid may not play division I but I am here to tell you with some talent and good grades, kids can take that love of a sport and help pay for school. My brother was like Rudy....no athletic talent but heart. He went to a Div III school, got a good education and football paid for about half of it.
I say let's stop thinking small....start a petition, flood D and J with phone calls, call higher and higher up the ladder. One thing I've learned...softball parents are active and energetic....so let's figure this out and do something.! (this is my first post so I hope to hel* I don't get in trouble. I just say what I believe in and I reallllyyy believe in kids!)
you are correct. It makes me mad that they won't host a fastpitch tournament. Thats big bucks. All the travel teams wouldn't have to drive so far to play a tournament. It would be great to play local. We drive to Adams park in Kennesaw for our practices
#37
Posted 03 October 2008 - 07:01 AM
RUN FOR OFFICE... START THE PETITIOTN... TALK TO A LOCAL ORGANIZATION!!
DO SOOOOOOOMETHING!! BUT COMPLAINING HERE WONT GET YOU WHAT YOU WANT!
#38
Posted 03 October 2008 - 07:21 AM
RUN FOR OFFICE... START THE PETITIOTN... TALK TO A LOCAL ORGANIZATION!!
DO SOOOOOOOMETHING!! BUT COMPLAINING HERE WONT GET YOU WHAT YOU WANT!
Madcohort, are you Tommy Dooley?
#39
Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:17 AM
#40
Posted 03 October 2008 - 08:30 AM
And not defensive.
Just a coach and parent like y'all.....
But this constant complaining irritates me. It it like Dems and Repsss.. always got ideas but never solve anything!!!
The thread would be better served if the originator stated like this:
Hey everyone! I am just tired of how Girls Softball get the shaft in PC. I want to do "this". I want to take "this" proposal to teh board. What do you think? What else can we do to make it better? I realize that this will take time and effort. i want to have this done by fall ball next year. Can I get your help and support?
But instead we get Dooley sux and justice doesnt care and blah blah blah!!!
Do something!!!!
Take FLAVA up on her offer and talk with the NEW GA board. I know some members and I bet they would be willing to help organize softball on the competitive level again!!
But gosh.. quit whining .
On a completely different subject: Nice picture, Charlie Brown!




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